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Offline nanabush

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Can someone help with order of these?
on: May 16, 2005, 11:14:42 PM
I'm not good at sticking with one piece until it is complete and I keep looking at different styles, different types of pieces.  Could someone who has knowledge of these pieces put them in order in difficulty, for they are all pieces that I want to finish someday, and don't know which one to start with.  Some I have played a bit, but can't get through...

-Jeux d'eau
-Ballade in Ab Major by Chopin
-Fugue in C# major by Bach, I'm steadily learning the prelude
-Le Gibet
-Winter Wind Etude
-Toccata from Tombeau de Couperin
-Mazeppa from TE
-Eroica from TE
-Ce qu'a vu le vent d'ouest... prelude by Debussy
-Heroic Polonaise

If someone could possibly put those pieces in order of difficulty it'd be greatly appreciated, so I have somewhere to start...
Interested in discussing:

-Prokofiev Toccata
-Scriabin Sonata 2

Offline rob47

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Re: Can someone help with order of these?
Reply #1 on: May 16, 2005, 11:37:44 PM
I'm not good at sticking with one piece until it is complete and I keep looking at different styles, different types of pieces.  Could someone who has knowledge of these pieces put them in order in difficulty, for they are all pieces that I want to finish someday, and don't know which one to start with.  Some I have played a bit, but can't get through...

-Jeux d'eau
-Ballade in Ab Major by Chopin
-Fugue in C# major by Bach, I'm steadily learning the prelude
-Le Gibet
-Winter Wind Etude
-Toccata from Tombeau de Couperin
-Mazeppa from TE
-Eroica from TE
-Ce qu'a vu le vent d'ouest... prelude by Debussy
-Heroic Polonaise

If someone could possibly put those pieces in order of difficulty it'd be greatly appreciated, so I have somewhere to start...

I'd say you'd have to make that decision yourself.  Myself, i can't play Ravel without thousands of hours put into it, but I'd assume most people would say 'Zepp is the hardest.  So start with that I guess.  Out of all those pieces it's also the best one IMO.  8)
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Offline porilo

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Re: Can someone help with order of these?
Reply #2 on: May 17, 2005, 12:39:16 AM
You've asked a very hard question and I'm sure that if 100 people reply, they would give you 100 different answers !!  For myself, I hardly play Ravel & Debussy. I love listening to their music but I don't feel that I can give it the expression and emotion that it deserves when I play it .......... and that's apart from conquering the technical difficulties.   C sharp major fugue ........... that's too many sharps for me, I'm afraid, and I'm never happy with my Bach playing either.  From the remainder, if it's any help, I'd personally go for the Chopin Ballade, Heroic Polonaise, Mazeppa, Winter Wind Etude, then Eroica.  That's my personal opinion, but I'm sure you will get plenty of other orderings.  BY the way, Mazeppa is by no means easy but is also harder than it looks.  With a strong will, plenty of practice and determination, you will manage it.

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Re: Can someone help with order of these?
Reply #3 on: May 17, 2005, 01:51:00 AM
Oh, one of those.  I get flammed everytime, but I will rank them for you.  Realy hard to hardest:

-Fugue in C# major by Bach, I'm steadily learning the prelude  (the one from Book II easier than Book I)
-Le Gibet
-Ballade in Ab Major by Chopin
-Ce qu'a vu le vent d'ouest... prelude by Debussy
-Jeux d'eau
-Eroica from TE
-Heroic Polonaise
-Mazeppa from TE
-Winter Wind Etude
-Toccata from Tombeau de Couperin

If you have small hands or have a hard time reading flats, move Le Gibet down.  If you play octaves pretty well, move Eroica up.  If you have played a lot of Scarlatti and play good repeated notes, move Ravel's Toccata up.  This, naturally, strictly from a mechanical point and placing a much heavier emphasis on playing the notes, and not as much in the more subtle interpretation questions, for which you should not be asking such question.

Give yourself at least one full classical sonata (Haydn, Mozart, J.C. bach or early Beethoven) between these.
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Re: Can someone help with order of these?
Reply #4 on: May 17, 2005, 08:26:10 PM
Thanks alot,
Interested in discussing:

-Prokofiev Toccata
-Scriabin Sonata 2

Offline ted

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Re: Can someone help with order of these?
Reply #5 on: May 17, 2005, 08:54:19 PM
Difficulty is a pretty personal thing. I play only three of those and they're all equally hard to me in different ways. I find it impossible to rank them, even just physically.
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