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Offline Rach3

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Moderators?
« on: January 20, 2004, 05:01:55 AM »
Nilsjohan, are we getting any sooner or later? Without naming names, it seems we are beginning to need them...  :o
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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #1 on: January 20, 2004, 05:58:50 PM »
I would like to subtly let it be known that I would be willing to take on the commitment... ;),
Ed

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #2 on: January 21, 2004, 02:13:44 AM »
If necessary, I wouldn't mind doing it either... I hope my good records forumwise and otherwise should testify to my eligibility. I am reasonably fair and not overzealous, and I never lose my temper...  ;)
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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #3 on: January 21, 2004, 07:30:33 PM »
Yes but it's not quite 1641 (at time of writing) posts is it ;D?
Ed

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #4 on: January 23, 2004, 10:51:00 PM »
You're probably right, I think occasionally we could use a moderator, but this forum usually seems pretty clean to me.

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #5 on: April 22, 2004, 09:02:25 AM »
Clean enough I would agree, although occasional asterisked-4-letter-words do pop out. That could be a disgrace to the board.
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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #6 on: August 04, 2004, 08:32:30 PM »
*Bump*

I was going to start a new topic on about moderators, but it's easier just to dig this rusty old thing from its grave.

We could indeed use a few moderators, if just to move topics to appropriate forums, lock spammy/flammable topics, etc. I really don't know any forum which doesn't have any moderators besides this one.
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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #7 on: August 07, 2004, 09:07:59 PM »
I suggest to be the moderator. I would keep Bernadette quiet for a while. what do you think?

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #8 on: August 08, 2004, 05:03:58 AM »
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I suggest to be the moderator.


Mmmm, would you allow 'stupid' threads, threads that don't agree with your personal philosophy, threads that mention the words "fight' Kulahola "fight" Bernhard? .....

Offline Motrax

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #9 on: August 08, 2004, 06:50:52 PM »
If we get mods, which we should, there'd probably have to be nominations/voting. That's how it was done at another forum I'mi part of, and it worked very well.
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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #10 on: October 09, 2004, 04:57:54 PM »
http://www.pianoforum.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=repo;action=display;num=1097009672

Look at the end. This is why we need moderators. There are people of all ages on this forum, and some get carried away at times. Moderators could give out warnings, lock topics, and do other things which are not being done at the moment.
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Offline Motrax

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #11 on: October 09, 2004, 05:19:20 PM »
http://www.pianoforum.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=teac;action=display;num=1096087928

This topic is also a mess, and needs locking. Really, we'd be much better off with mods.
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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #12 on: October 10, 2004, 04:57:24 PM »
I am not very happy with my posts being deleted...   >:(

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #13 on: October 11, 2004, 02:49:57 AM »
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OT (off-topic)
I know this belongs in a pm to the webmaster, but could I please be a moderator? I have experience, and furthermore am very responsible. I'm one of the moderators of the ChopinMusic Forum: www.chopinmusic.net/forum. I helped to ban Comme there, BTW ;).


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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #14 on: October 11, 2004, 03:36:56 AM »
This place is full of power-hungry moderators-to-be!

Don't allow it Nils! ;D

Best wishes,
Bernhard.
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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #15 on: October 11, 2004, 06:08:21 AM »
I think everyone needs to open their eyes and elect BERNHARD to be moderator.  We all worship and love him as a father; if this were a tropical island, we would be fanning Bernhard with giant banana leaves as he sits and eats peeled grapes (peeled by us of course) ;D
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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #16 on: October 11, 2004, 08:15:28 AM »
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I know this belongs in a pm to the webmaster, but could I please be a moderator? I have experience, and furthermore am very responsible. I'm one of the moderators of the ChopinMusic Forum: www.chopinmusic.net/forum. I helped to ban Comme there, BTW .

hahaha da phildan wants more power. respect  8)
even though getting comme banned was not at all wikid

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #17 on: October 11, 2004, 01:20:58 PM »
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I think everyone needs to open their eyes and elect BERNHARD to be moderator.  We all worship and love him as a father; if this were a tropical island, we would be fanning Bernhard with giant banana leaves as he sits and eats peeled grapes (peeled by us of course) ;D
donjuan


Why does this scenario reminds me of "Lord of the Flies?"

Power corrupts.
And absolute power is even more fun! ;D

Best wishes,
Bernhard.
The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side. (Hunter Thompson)

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #18 on: October 11, 2004, 02:54:25 PM »
oh can't you just imagine it if we were all moderators, deleting posts in every direction, at whatever people get offended at, we'd end up having no posts left!!
i vote bernhard as mod too, since he appears to be the only one responsible enough for such a thing, unless he is of course an 8yr old kid, who, at the concept of such power, goes mad and deletes the entire forum...
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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #19 on: October 11, 2004, 06:27:33 PM »
Oh well, if an 8-year-old boy could post such sophisticated messages I would still nominate him as a moderator.
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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #20 on: October 11, 2004, 08:34:50 PM »
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i vote bernhard as mod too, since he appears to be the only one responsible enough for such a thing, unless he is of course an 8yr old kid, who, at the concept of such power, goes mad and deletes the entire forum...


If you nominate Bernhard, then I nominate kulahola.  Unless, of course, they're the same person. ;)

But I would seriously disagree that Bernhard's the only one responsible enough to be a moderator.  We have a lot of other good (and mature) contributors here.  What about Robert Henry, monk, koji, xvimbi, Ted, and others?

But we won't need that many moderators.  I'm not convinced that we need them at all.

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #21 on: October 11, 2004, 11:34:19 PM »
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If you nominate Bernhard, then I nominate kulahola.  Unless, of course, they're the same person. ;)

But I would seriously disagree that Bernhard's the only one responsible enough to be a moderator.  We have a lot of other good (and mature) contributors here.  What about Robert Henry, monk, koji, xvimbi, Ted, and others?

But we won't need that many moderators.  I'm not convinced that we need them at all.

Robert Henry is rarely on the forum.  He is a concert pianist- he has too much of a life to spend so much time on an internet forum.  I think we need to hail King Bernhard!

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #22 on: October 11, 2004, 11:58:47 PM »
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What about Robert Henry, monk, koji, xvimbi, Ted, and others?

I think I will have to decline the honor. I have been known to use such harsh words as "rubbish" and "nonsense", so I may end up in a situation where I would have to delete my own messages. So, I would first have to write them, then read them, then struggle with myself... arrgh. :'( :'(

I may even have to ban myself. This could lead to a paradox similar to time travel, where one can never be sure what happens if one meets oneself in the past.

Naah, this forum is pretty harmless. I personally don't think we really need any moderators at this point.

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«Reply #23 on: October 12, 2004, 12:06:24 AM »
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Power corrupts.
And absolute power is even more fun! ;D

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

You would have to change your signature to:

The Best Vicious Bernardo Gui.
8) 8) 8)

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #24 on: October 13, 2004, 03:57:29 AM »
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You would have to change your signature to:

The Best Vicious Bernardo Gui.
8) 8) 8)


ah... Bernardo Gui... There was a guy who could put order in this forum.

In my opinion, a deep wish to be a moderator should immediately disqualify the applicant for the job. ;)
(it also shows that something is not quite right upstairs ;D)

Best wishes,
Bernhard.
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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #25 on: October 13, 2004, 05:09:35 AM »
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In my opinion, a deep wish to be a moderator should immediately disqualify the applicant for the job. ;)
(it also shows that something is not quite right upstairs ;D)

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

well, if that's the case, maybe Spatula should be moderator!
;D
donjuan

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #26 on: October 14, 2004, 04:49:50 PM »
what? why me?

I post 87% of stuff into miscellaneous and anything but piano.  As you can see a much of my posts aren't interested in piano...

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«Reply #27 on: October 15, 2004, 01:29:00 AM »
what? why me?

I post 87% of stuff into miscellaneous and anything but piano.  As you can see a much of my posts aren't interested in piano...
notice the " ;D"behind my comment?

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«Reply #28 on: October 15, 2004, 01:57:38 AM »
No I didn't.  :-X

Offline tosca1

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #29 on: December 20, 2004, 11:36:22 PM »
This forum definitely needs to be moderated otherwise there is the risk that it loses its
"raison d'Ítre".  It is clearly stated for all who register that the forum is mainly for pianists, piano teachers and piano students. This of course covers a very broad spectrum of people and that diversity is to be welcomed. 

There is an educational and informative objective to this forum and for those who regard it just as a place for entertainment and mind games, there are many other sites on the internet for that purpose. Pianoforum does have rubrics for alternative and less formal interaction.

The danger of allowing the forum to become too "off beat" is that highly qualified and knowledgeable people are turned away and valuable and insightful comment is lost.

Kind regards,
Robert. 

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #30 on: December 21, 2004, 02:08:03 AM »
But a little fun never detracts from the sheer intellect. 8)
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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #31 on: December 21, 2004, 02:18:07 AM »
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In my opinion, a deep wish to be a moderator should immediately disqualify the applicant for the job. Wink
(it also shows that something is not quite right upstairs Grin)

Hahaha

This quote will have special meaning for some of us, I'm, sure!

rt ;D ;D ;D

Offline Daniel_piano

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #32 on: December 21, 2004, 04:52:01 AM »
Please, please and again please don't make this beautiful and free forum another reflection of the fake political-correct world out there
Let's remain a civil anarchy who write by instinct instead of fake rules and bigoted theories
Do you know any 7 or 8 years old who doesn't use bad and dirty words?
I don't know
So, we want to restrain ourselves from being instinctive and natural?

Please, no fake rules and monarchy here
No moderators !!!!!

Daniel
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Offline realitytest

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #33 on: December 21, 2004, 10:34:03 PM »
I thought you HAD a moderator!  If you're mainly concerned about cuss words, a simple filter would bleep them, you know.

Rach3  wrote:
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Nilsjohan, are we getting any sooner or later? Without naming names, it seems we are beginning to need them...  Shocked

Rach3,  please say it outright is you feel the crowd of Newbies  offended you somehow.  If so, how so? Does anyone else feel we have been an unpleasant intrusion? 

If it is something/someone else , please say so as I (er, might be obvious) am feelnig a little defensive.

Why DO you all feel the need for a moderator anyhow?  I read through the entre thread and it seems to me, you're a pretty civilized lot.  And even Spatula, banned himself - which I think is extraordinary!   (Impressove, Spat!)  Self-moderation like this - for the most part - is,  I would think, the ideal. )

rt

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #34 on: December 21, 2004, 10:36:42 PM »
As an aside, I think this is a great forum - respectful, just serious enough, and neat formatting.  However you ARE small.  I  would think an influx of new members would be a big plus in creating greater diversity and a more stimulating level of discussion.  As I have said elsewhere, these are all serious musicians in love with their instruments with a couple of exceptions (I am one having signed on elsewhere to search for an instrument for my piainist son...We now, have three pianos, BTW).

In fact, there have been complaints about our Exodus. 

And ALL the recently arrived "acquainted" newbies are smart and well educated professionals too (one, Elena,  is an honest--to- God pro  concert pianist - and very beautiful  :o and smart too, if that matters :)  .  Maybe for the Piano Babes calendar the site can raise funds by producing!  :D.  (Why not, BTW?)

rt

Offline Ed Thomas

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #35 on: December 22, 2004, 12:51:48 AM »
This thread started over 11 months ago, considerably earlier than the wave of "newbies".  Rach3 certainly did not have you in mind when he wrote it... unless he was precognitive.  Of course he probably knew I was going to say that.  :D

Moderators are essential to any board.  Over and over again I see good boards hijacked by prolific writers who don't seem to have much else to do.  Eventually they clog things up so badly nothing makes any sense... and often they turn spiteful and childish.  This is an unusually well-balanced board.  It owes its success to the good people who post here, both new and old, and to the judicious pruning by an excellent moderator.

I am deeply grateful for the board and you people who so willingly offer help.  I would be very sad if the board disintegrated due to lack of attention.

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #36 on: December 22, 2004, 12:58:21 AM »

Moderators are essential to any board.

Don't agree at all
All the worst forums and messageboard I've ever seen are the moderated ones
Moderators could seem to be a usefull concept, actually they're worst than useless
Moderators is just another way to take advantage of power to destroy every hint of social life by arbitrary and ridicolous laws and rules
I want a free web, and free places are the best on the web moderated place are like any other bad monarchy of violence, disorder, contempt and caos

Daniel
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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #37 on: December 22, 2004, 01:26:10 AM »
I agree with Daniel; overly moderated forums easily become guilty of censorship and narrow down the possibilities of communication.

Bernhard also said it: there is already something fundamentally wrong with a person who craves power just for the sake of it - these kind of people are totally inapplicable for possessing power.

Besides, we already have a good administrator who seems to be keeping an eye on garbage producing members without taking the whole control thing over the edge, and is always ready to negotiate possible misunderstandings. Keep it that way, keep it THIS way.

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #38 on: December 22, 2004, 01:59:34 AM »
aren't some of you a little confused?  this board is already moderated.   look at the date this thread began--it was almost a year ago!

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #39 on: December 22, 2004, 03:08:40 AM »
Police might not be needed in a perfect world. 

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #40 on: December 22, 2004, 07:57:49 AM »
Ed said:
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This thread started over 11 months ago, considerably earlier than the wave of "newbies".  Rach3 certainly did not have you in mind when he wrote it... unless he was precognitive.  Of course he probably knew I was going to say that.  Cheesy

That's what hapens when you're hypersensitive! 
 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-X

rt

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #41 on: April 20, 2005, 01:37:07 AM »
Alright.  Originally when I came to this site, I had no problems with it.  However, recently, there has been an overwhelming magnitude of stupid, spam-like threads.  It really is annoying to even have to look at their titles. 

Thus, since PF is a fairly large site, and I don't think Nils can moderate the entire thing on his own, I think we need moderators to close/lock the stupid threads that have arose recently.

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«Reply #42 on: April 20, 2005, 08:56:20 AM »
OK, I know I have promised to take more care of this issue for too long now...

It is true that for some periods there is no way I can "moderate" the board by myself. There will be some drastic (positive!) changes to this website soon though and I will not take the hassle to set up moderators right now. In the meantime I would really appreciate  if you could make more use of the "report to moderator" link (that you see below every post).

Please use this link if you come across post or threads that:
- are not "family friendly"
- contain spam or advertisements
- contain no useful information at all
- contain any kind of personal inslults and offences

Every single click you make on that link is very helpful. Even though you think the post/thread is on the borderline and not really deserves to be deleted, click anyway. It gives me a good overview of who might need a little reprimand.

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Re: Moderators?
«Reply #43 on: April 20, 2005, 07:49:03 PM »
Alrighy then.  :)