Help in composing

[loonbohol]

I am a person whose hobby is composing.
Since composing is my hobby. My ability to compose is dependent on what my Ideas are.

At this time, I ran out of Idea of what will I compose since I ran out of what will I compose
Composing is NOT my Job so nobody dictates what will I compose.
I kind a Run out of Ideas of what to compose.

I have done 2 Impromptu's ,5 Etudes, 3 other titles ,2 Preludes.
I don't want to compose a Sonata since it's too long.

And my biggest problem is the music notation. without it , I can hardly make a hard copy of my composition and I have done 2 musical notations.

Buying empty music sheets are almost useless since they lack spacing for me to fit the higher pitch notes, the instructions and the lower pitch notes.

Using software is also useless since sometimes the notes that is played on the left hand will be placed on the staff of the right hand or Vice-versa.

I cannot imagine that I have to write and draw many blank music sheets with really good spacing since it is too tiring.

Without it, then How am I suppose to Copyright my works or to present it as a entrance audition to conservatories.

[chozartmaninoff]

Using software is also useless since sometimes the notes that is played on the left hand will be placed on the staff of the right hand or Vice-versa.

Use the softwear then check your work, play it from your own music, if u notice a not is in the wrong stave, move it manually.

I think other than that u appear to have ruled out all of your options.

Good luck

[richard black]

Buying empty music sheets are almost useless since they lack spacing for me to fit the higher pitch notes, the instructions and the lower pitch notes.

You can get much more variety of music manuscript paper in some shops, but if you're stuck just get regular 12-stave paper and blank off every third stave, giving you 4 systems per page and plenty of space for instructions, leger lines etc.

[loonbohol]

There are no  4 staves for sale in my place. So I have to draft them.

Yet my notation software cannot manually transfer the notes to another staff.

I have risked composition losess and It does happen If you do not notate your music.
Please I am just 15 years old. so It is hard to notate.

[shingo]

There are no  4 staves for sale in my place. So I have to draft them.

He said to blank them off just cover them with some other strips of paper, or a label or whatever. If you think it will look too messey then just place blank paper over them and then photo-copy it so that it will look neater.

but if you're stuck just get regular 12-stave paper and blank off every third stave, giving you 4 systems per page

[Petter]

Try this https://www.blanksheetmusic.net/ if you have a printer.

I think you can customize it somewhat, but haven´t tried. Hope it helps.

[healdie]

I don't want to compose a Sonata since it's too long.

Not a Mahler fan then 

sonatas don't have to be long listen to some Scarlatti

also i don't think you have to worry about copyrighting your works

just a question do you only composer piano music or have you tried any other groups of instruments?

[loonbohol]

sonata's  means 3 movements.

you might be talking about the so called G D B A G ( I dont know the title but the first five notes are listed ).LONGO 79

Blank sheet music cannot do it either.

It should be the the spaces inside the staff is not long.
And each staff is that long.

I only compose piano music and I am planning to write a Orchestral music.
I am not good on those orchestral handling so I can't do it.

No performers so only Anvil Studio.

And as Pinoy Pianist had said in the other forum.

You have to submit samples of your composition if you have to be part of the composition department of the University of the Philippines.

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Who said that composing and performing cannot go together.
Go to youtube and search for Ryuichi Sakamoto. (his compositions are Grade 3~6)
I am even confused why such words as composing and Performing are immiscible.

Maybe It is given to orchestral composers.

Even at the time of Franz Liszt, Composers usually don't perform their own compositions.
But Franz Liszt performed some of his own compositions because no performer wants to play his works THEY ARE SO DIFFICULT.

What I am trying to prevent is the so called COMPOSITION LOSS.
It is a term given to a composer who composed a composition but fails to notate it thus he forget the tune and therefore he cannot notate what he composed.

AND IT HAPPENED TO ME ALREADY.

[db05]

sonata's  means 3 movements.

you might be talking about the so called G D B A G ( I dont know the title but the first five notes are listed ).LONGO 79

To clear things up, sonata since classical era meant 3 movements, one in sonata form. Before that, sonata was simply any piece. So most all of Scarlatti's works were called sonatas.


I think you have to buy some score writing software or make the most of what you have. Even if you have to spend time making sheets, it's a good investment. Just write them down now so you can print later when you have the software.

[healdie]

Who said that composing and performing cannot go together.

no one said they can't go together i know in england at the RNCM they do offer a combined piano and composition course but this is reserved for the best of the best you have to be extremly competant in both to even get considered for this course

it is just good advice to specialize in one area rather than become a jack of all trades but by no means give up piano because you compose even Mahler was a great pianist it is just that the study of performance and composition now are so specialist compared to the time of Liszt.

Also i do feel because of Liszts performing his compositions did suffer, who would rather see his symphonic peoms rather than the ricard strauss ones? and when was the last time any one saw his symphonies performed?

he is only recognised within the piano world and i know alot of people who still don't take Liszt seriously as a composer, so i would not take Liszt as your idol if you seriously want to be a composer

also i think most composition courses offer composition in more modern styles as a composer you have to keep up with modern trends and fashions (something Stravinsky was very good at), i don't think a work written in an old style will work or sell, this doesn't mean you can't love the old masters but you have to know times have changed

[loonbohol]

My hardest piano piece that I play are.( Arranged from the most difficult to easy).


2.) La Campanella
3.) Chopin Etude Opus 10 No.12
4.) Chopin Etude Opus 25 no.1
5.) Chopin Etude Opus 10 no.9

[loonbohol]

sorry but I pressed the enter button by accident.

No.1 Hardest piece is Chopin Etude Opus 25 No. 11 .

The story is that when I heard on the TV about a certain Chinese guy (I don't know him).
Was the youngest person who won the INTERNATIONAL CHOPIN COMPETITION.
Then I bought a Chopin book then I studied it for more than 5 years  and I have mastered 9.5 Etudes. "The point 5 is for Winter wind etude which I am learning.

Then until I met a composer named Kajiura and I started to compose.

I am planning for a two year plan of compositions before I enter the University.
+(Hwera Usog)+

Project Hinata June 2008-Mar 2009
 
1.)Seven Impromptu's Op.1 no.1~no.7
2.)A sonata about Winter Op.2 ( 3 movements)
3.)A sonata about Summer Op.3 (3 movements)
4.)A sonata about Autumn Op.4 (3 movements)
5.)A sonata about Spring Op.5 (3 movements)

Project Harana Mar 2009-Jun 2009

1.) Ten Harana's Op.6 no.1~no.10
2.) Five Harana's Op.16 no.1~5

Project Tinikling Jun 2009-Mar 2010

1.)Twelve Tiniklings Op.21 no.1~no.12
2.)Three Tiniklings Op.33 no.1~no.3

Project Etude Mar 2010~Jun 2010

1.)Twelve Etudes Op.36 no.1~no.12

We'll I can even say that my Compositions are a mixture of Pop or Reggae with Classical.
Could someone recommend me in this composition.

[jabbz]

Don't use opus numbers, or refer to them by opus numbers - that's for published music generally. Use some kind of personal numbering system, for personal use, and then, when they get to publication stage, worry about op.s. In fact, many modern composers don't use Opus numbers at all, just work titles.

[db05]

We'll I can even say that my Compositions are a mixture of Pop or Reggae with Classical.
Could someone recommend me in this composition.

Maybe your beauty captivates and makes that pianists  admind to deviate his attention to the piano then to you.   

And I think I have fallen in love with you.

Oh so romantic !.    Piano Romance     

Write me a serenade.
"Harana para kay db05"
in d-flat major. Duh. 

Seriously, it really depends on your taste. I find the 4 seasons idea old, though. Our country has only 2 seasons. Write something about those.

[shinerl]

Based on my calculations you are planning to make 48 compositions in just two years.

making it 24 compositions in one year
making it two compositions in one month.
making it one compositions in two weeks.

Kind uh!  You are actually trying to compose at Mozart speed.
Quite Impressed with your guts.
Take your time.

Don't compromise the Quality.
 

[loonbohol]

This is my composition in violin that will impress shineRL.
THis is the Violin Partitia for ShineRL .

There are many many questions I want to ask you.

1.)Has my ability to compose Improved?
2.)What other sites can you recommend me in Music notation theory and where can I learn composing in the internet?
3.)Recommend me some music notation software.
4.)Post me a relative major key and explain me what a relative major key is.
                  Wikipedia is way too complicated.
5.)Can you research on that chinese guy.
6.)What is a Neopolian Chords and explain it for me to understand.
7.)Can you give me a graph about Scales.
8.)What is ear training in non-complicated sense ( The explanation of the internet is hard).
9.)If I ask a question answer it.

  Hello ShineRL 

[db05]

This is my composition in violin that will impress shineRL.
THis is the Violin Partitia for ShineRL .

2.)What other sites can you recommend me in Music notation theory and where can I learn composing in the internet?

*is jealous* Where's my harana?? 

Just playing... I like you. I hope I get to meet you in real life.

2) I haven't found much in one place, and tend to collect scattered information from different sites and print them and group them into topics. I suggest you do the same. Most of my files are from guitar sites, as I started with guitar.

Some good articles:

Originality (the article it links to is also good)
https://tomhess.net/Articles/Originality.aspx

Songwriting (5 parts)
https://tomhess.net/Articles/SongwritingPart1.aspx

Creativity and Expression (2 parts)
https://tomhess.net/Articles/CreativityAndExpressionPart1.aspx

How to Develop Your Own Style (2 parts)
https://tomhess.net/Articles/HowToDevelopYourOwnStylePart1.aspx

Express Yourself
https://tomhess.net/Articles/ExpressYourself.aspx


I'll be back later for some more tips. Munch on these first.

[db05]

A couple more links on composition:

Phrasing (2 parts)
https://tomhess.net/Articles/PhrasingPart1YourPersonalExpression.aspx

Voice Leading
https://tomhess.net/Articles/VoiceLeadingTipsForWritingBetterProgressions1.aspx

4.)Post me a relative major key and explain me what a relative major key is.
                  Wikipedia is way too complicated.
6.)What is a Neopolian Chords and explain it for me to understand.
7.)Can you give me a graph about Scales.

Relative Major? I only know relative minor, so I don't know exactly what you mean. Same with scales, I'm sure you know your scales; what exactly is it that you want to know about them? Please specify.

You can find something about scales and neapolitan chords here:
https://musictheory.net/index.html

8.)What is ear training in non-complicated sense ( The explanation of the internet is hard).

Well, it IS complicated; if you're not confused, you're not getting it! There are many ways to go about ear training.

See my reply on here for some free ear trainers:
https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,31193.msg363569.html#msg363569

I hope it is not too complicated for you.

btw am not affiliated with those sites. It's just that I've seen them and find the info useful.

Hope this helps. 

[loonbohol]

*is jealous* Where's my harana?? 

Just playing... I like you. I hope I get to meet you in real life.

2) I haven't found much in one place, and tend to collect scattered information from different sites and print them and group them into topics. I suggest you do the same. Most of my files are from guitar sites, as I started with guitar

I am just fifteen years old and I estimate you to be 23 years old.
Just to think with about you.

Composing takes time and lots of free space and A good Plotting.

In what way can I meet you.

[shinerl]

It was beautiful and yet it was short and

  Thank You   

I cannot miss your loveliness Loonbohol.
You got me too.....                             
I am a girl too.

5.)Can you research on that chinese guy.

his name is Yundi Lee and no doubt.

[db05]

I am just fifteen years old and I estimate you to be 23 years old.
Just to think with about you.

In what way can I meet you.

I don't know if that's a compliment. I'm actually 19 going on 20. 

If you're going to apply to UP, I can see you on the way. Although I am not a student there, I know the place a bit. If there's a will, there's a way. 

Do you really live in Bohol?

his name is Yundi Lee and no doubt.

Oh. This guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yundi_Li

[loonbohol]

I don't know if that's a compliment. I'm actually 19 going on 20. 

If you're going to apply to UP, I can see you on the way. Although I am not a student there, I know the place a bit. If there's a will, there's a way. 

Do you really live in Bohol?

Oh. This guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yundi_Li

Yes,is a town named loon in bohol

go to wikipedia.

It was beautiful and yet it was short and

  Thank You  

I cannot miss your loveliness Loonbohol.
You got me too.....                             
I am a girl too.

his name is Yundi Lee and no doubt.

What place do you live shinerl.