OUCH my composition.

[loonbohol]

now that I am really fustrated.

I need another help in composing.
since you can tell from what I just said.

I actually mean that as I compose more music that it seems that my composing skills and the quality of my music are degrading and not improving.

I feel fustrated that I may not be able to compose the harana or kundiman that Db_05 will ask.

[db05]

I feel fustrated that I may not be able to compose the harana or kundiman that Db_05 will ask.

Are you serious? I was just kidding LOL. Just do your best. 

[jabbz]

Learn Music theory, and then once you've learnt it, ignore it and go compose.

[healdie]

a very good knowledge of theory and harmony and counterpoint i think is essential before you create good compositions, obviously as Jabbz said you must then break these rules but how can you break a rule before you know it? so yes lots of theory

and just keep trying many composers Brahms, Wagner, Webern, Bruckner did not mangae to create anything that good until later on in their life I.E 30 +


 so don't worry too much that yur compositions now aren't at their standard just keep learning and trying

[loonbohol]

Learn Music theory, and then once you've learnt it, ignore it and go compose.

It is more complicated than you think

[db05]

It is more complicated than you think

No one said it was easy...

[loonbohol]

No one said it was easy...

Yeah! your right.

[thierry13]

Learn Music theory, and then once you've learnt it, ignore it and go compose.

Haha, that's the best advice you'll ever get for any area of music.

[jabbz]

I'm happy to look over compositions, I'll be honest about them, and offer advice on how to improve them, but you really need to engage with composition, if you love it you'll learn it.

[shinerl]

You really know music theory but skill is not only important but sometimes your emotions will influence your  music...!

[jabbz]

The only reason you should learn theory (if you are going to compose) is to be able to express.

[loonbohol]

No genre is known to express fustration.

[jabbz]

Beethoven consistently expressed frustration. 

[db05]

No genre is known to express fustration.

Beethoven consistently expressed frustration. 

True. Also, A LOT of rock, punk and metal bands!! 

[loonbohol]

Beethoven consistently expressed frustration. 

Beethoven expressed power not fustration.
EMO expressed lonliness and anger.

[db05]

Beethoven expressed power not fustration.
EMO expressed lonliness and anger.

I think Beethoven was more frustrated with not being appreciated. He does get emotional, and is sometimes called Romantic though he's in Classical Era. I'm not sure, but doesn't Sonata Pathetique express a battle with frustration?

"The second theme (of 1st mvt) is warmer and more nearly approaches the lyric vein... strikingly suggestive of the mood so common to young but gifted souls, in the bitterness of their first pained surprise at the cruel contrast between the ideal and the actual in life..." - Perry, Descriptive Analyses of Piano Works


There is so much more to emo, but I doubt the people here know about that.
First off, what is commonly termed "emo" is a misnomer. The real emo genre and sound came years before what is now mistakenly called emo.

From Mineral (what can be called a POST-EMO band) - Gloria:

A brave morning
thoughts flap their wings and fly
and I can still taste
defeat on my lips

Bright tie, fish fly
I have not yet arrived
How can I not admit
I need to know you?

'Cause I just want to be
something more than the mud in your eyes
I want to be
the clay in your hands

Hey sorrow,
where are you?
Tomorrow just won't be the same
without you here

I wish for shoulders
bold and broad to bear
and strength to
hold my head above them

'Cause I just want to be
something more than the mud in your eyes
I want to be
the clay in your hands

Gloria is silent... and glory is a silent thing.

[jabbz]

Beethoven expressed power not fustration.
EMO expressed lonliness and anger.

I can tell you really don't know that much about Beethoven.

As an aside, if you're getting frustrated by music theory, you're doing something fundamentally very wrong. It's a logical, uncluttered system. You just have to learn it systematically.

[loonbohol]

how to cure my fustration?

[db05]

how to cure my fustration?

I don't think you can cure it. Just comes and goes.

[shinerl]

You should rest. 

Not compose at a constant rate that you'll attain 1200 compositions at one lifetime.
you really are composing at Mozart speed