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Offline keys

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Liszt's works
on: June 20, 2005, 02:53:33 PM
Does anyone know where I can find a complete list of Liszt's compositions?

Also, do you know if there have been collectionsn of his transcriptions for piano published, and where they are available? And did he transcribe all of Schubert's Winterreise?

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Re: Liszt's works
Reply #1 on: June 20, 2005, 03:25:02 PM

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Re: Liszt's works
Reply #2 on: June 20, 2005, 03:30:09 PM
Well, a while back, I made a lis(z)t of Liszt pieces and my opinion of their relative difficulties:

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,3568.0.html

Its far from being complete, but it contains most of the well known pieces.

that website baohui posted is pretty good, but its also vague..
Leslie Howard plays most everything Liszt wrote for the piano.  You can find contents of all 59 discs here:

https://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/details/67414.asp

Scroll down to the blue links and you have access to see everything.  For example, you can find Liszt's transcriptions of Schubert's Winterreise in volumes 32 and 33.  

Dover publications has a good collection of Liszt's transcriptions, although it is not complete.  Most common opera transcriptions and Schubert Transcriptions are available.  I usually buy stuff from dover through Amazon or sheetmusicplus.com.  To find the really rare stuff, you may have to contact more authoriative publishers, such as Edito Musica Budapest (https://www.emb.hu/) or Breitkopf and Hartel (www.breitkopf.com) and ask if they have it.  If the music is really rare, maybe they wont even list it in their website and you will have to contact them.

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Re: Liszt's works
Reply #3 on: June 20, 2005, 03:39:57 PM
wow, thanks so much!

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Re: Liszt's works
Reply #4 on: June 20, 2005, 04:18:40 PM

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Re: Liszt's works
Reply #5 on: June 21, 2005, 04:34:51 PM
hi,
im new here. i think that it will be veerry difficult to get all his works cos Liszts' "transcendental studies" (rated as the most difficult piece in the world), is unimaginably hard to come by. \

ps: do you already hav the notes for transcendental studies? if u do, can u pls tell me where you got it?

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Re: Liszt's works
Reply #6 on: June 21, 2005, 04:44:36 PM
And why, if they are so difficult, they must be hard to get?

And the transcendental etudes aren't considered the hardest pieces in the world.

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Reply #7 on: June 21, 2005, 07:30:08 PM
hi,
im new here. i think that it will be veerry difficult to get all his works cos Liszts' "transcendental studies" (rated as the most difficult piece in the world), is unimaginably hard to come by. \

ps: do you already hav the notes for transcendental studies? if u do, can u pls tell me where you got it?
They are most definitely NOT the hardest.  Where is your source on that information??  I think whoever told you that is bullsh*t!!  Are you aware that the Transcendental etudes are significantly easier than the earlier 1837 setting called the grande etudes?  Obviously you or whoever made these "ratings" you speak of has never heard of Sorabji or Alkan..

ALSO, Transcendentals are NOT 'unimaginably hard' to come by.  You can buy them all, along with the grande etudes here:

https://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0486258157/qid=1119381983/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_0_1/702-6098975-1090461

Not only that, but whenever I go into music stores and look to see what they have for Liszt, all I can usually find are Transcendental etudes.  These are some of Liszt's most popular works.  Why would they be hard to find? 

Sorry for sounding so snooty and haughty, but it sort of sounds like you are pulling information out of thin air.  Please check your sources before stating opinions as facts on the forum.  It pisses off those who know and confuses the hell out of those who do not. 
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Re: Liszt's works
Reply #8 on: June 21, 2005, 08:49:45 PM
Umm are you sure about the list, I'm pretty sure that the first TE is easier than Un Sospiro, as well as Petrarch Sonnet 104...
Interested in discussing:

-Prokofiev Toccata
-Scriabin Sonata 2

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Reply #9 on: June 21, 2005, 10:27:40 PM
Umm are you sure about the list, I'm pretty sure that the first TE is easier than Un Sospiro, as well as Petrarch Sonnet 104...
Well, I've actually played all three of these pieces, and in my own opinion, I consider the first transcendental etude harder than the concert etude or the sonnet, simply because of the finger independence required in the ascending pattern in the right hand.  True, the piece is very short, but I felt most uncomfortable in that one passage than in any part of Sonetto or Un Sospiro.  Liszt's transcendental etudes are difficult (but not the most difficult in the world) because Liszt, like Chopin, designed his etudes around certain technical problems and awkward moments a pianist comes across.  If you look at Mazeppa or Chasse-Neige, maybe you will understand what I am getting at.  It seems as if the whole etude is designed around a single movement such as a stretch between 2nd and 3rd fingers.  Of course, this is just my opinion..  I have met people on the forum who thought La Campanella is easier than Liebestraume No.3, so it's really a subjective topic not worth arguing about.
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Re: Liszt's works
Reply #10 on: June 22, 2005, 11:25:16 AM
 :(  :o oops. sorry. this is the REAL person speaking. that wasnt typed my me.  :-X serious...... that must hav been one of my friends whom i allowed 2 use my account. that sounds weird ,but my friends always ask me 2, since they dont hav computers (some of them)

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Re: Liszt's works
Reply #11 on: June 22, 2005, 05:49:45 PM
What do people think about the chopin Barcarolle i think it's one of the most beatiful pieces for piano, along with the chopin c # minor nocturne posthumus.

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Reply #12 on: June 22, 2005, 08:30:04 PM
What do people think about the chopin Barcarolle i think it's one of the most beatiful pieces for piano, along with the chopin c # minor nocturne posthumus.
what has that to do with Liszt works?

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Re: Liszt's works
Reply #14 on: March 09, 2006, 09:24:56 PM
hah those guys think that Liebestraum is harder than La Campanella..... hilarious.


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