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Which of the following can't you stand?

Runs/cadenzas
1 (2.7%)
Rapid octaves
5 (13.5%)
Trills/tremolos
2 (5.4%)
Chord clusters/giant arpeggiated chords
1 (2.7%)
Thirds/parallel chords (eg Chopin's Op. 25 No. 8 )
4 (10.8%)
Messy rhythms/dots, ties, heaps of note values crammed into each bar/heavy syncopation
3 (8.1%)
Arpeggios
2 (5.4%)
Polyphonic voices (eg Bach Fugues)
3 (8.1%)
Anything that's really fast
2 (5.4%)
Heaps of accidentals crammed into every bar
9 (24.3%)
Cross rhythms
1 (2.7%)
Jumps
2 (5.4%)
Rapidly repeating notes
2 (5.4%)

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Topic: Techniques you HATE playing  (Read 2068 times)

Offline Waldszenen

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Techniques you HATE playing
on: July 03, 2005, 06:52:31 AM
Which of these do you really hate, that make you cringe every time you come across one?
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Offline pianonut

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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #1 on: July 03, 2005, 07:14:41 AM
heaps of accidentals crammed into every bar.  but i love the chord results in poulenc.  it's just, i'm trying not to write in all the accidentals through the measure anymore.  maybe my sightreading is improving, but i have to play it through a couple of times and listen closely to the chords to imitate them the next time.

is that a technique?  sightreading.  yes, i guess, so.
do you know why benches fall apart?  it is because they have lids with little tiny hinges so you can store music inside them.  hint:  buy a bench that does not hinge.  buy it for sturdiness.

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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #2 on: July 03, 2005, 07:54:02 AM
the accidentals get to me...especially when learning the notes slowly for a fast dissonant song   i.e. some of prokofiev's sonatas.

up to tempo it isn't as bad.

Offline Bouter Boogie

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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #3 on: July 03, 2005, 10:04:49 AM
I hate so many of them, but I finally picked the rapid octaves  :P
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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #4 on: July 03, 2005, 10:11:53 AM
jumps, particularly if they're chords cos i always hit the wrong notes! give me nice scalic passages  at any speed and i'm totally fine but jumping all over the place just gives me the heebies
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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #5 on: July 03, 2005, 11:22:26 AM
When I saw this topic, I immediately thought of one thing--but then you forgot to include it!!!

Super-fast repeated notes!!!  I hate that!!  Like in Alborado.

So I just chose the rhythm one, because that can be annoying.

I like rapid octaves because then I can show off.  (I have big hands, so it's not really fair)

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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #6 on: July 03, 2005, 11:23:30 AM
Hahaha. Definitely accidentals and particularly double sharps and double flats.

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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #7 on: July 03, 2005, 11:59:40 AM
I have no particular dislike for anything. I am fully capable of botching any one of them, and do so with consummate ease.
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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #8 on: July 03, 2005, 12:15:39 PM
Light and fast repeated staccato chords is my biggest weakness.

The "Limoges Marche" from Pictures at an Exhibition gets me every time.  Mendelssohn uses these a lot as well.
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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #9 on: July 03, 2005, 12:30:10 PM
When I saw this topic, I immediately thought of one thing--but then you forgot to include it!!!

Super-fast repeated notes!!!  I hate that!!  Like in Alborado.

So I just chose the rhythm one, because that can be annoying.

I like rapid octaves because then I can show off.  (I have big hands, so it's not really fair)

There you go, updated poll! :)
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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #10 on: July 03, 2005, 12:37:23 PM
Thirds  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Offline Bouter Boogie

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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #11 on: July 03, 2005, 05:33:57 PM
Thirds  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

I think your opinion's quite clear now  ::)
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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #12 on: July 03, 2005, 05:47:40 PM
Thank you so much for updating the poll!!!  Now I can vent my frustration at repeated notes here instead of taking it out on those closest to me.

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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #13 on: July 03, 2005, 06:28:19 PM
I think your opinion's quite clear now ::)
:)

Offline rhapsody in orange

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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #14 on: July 03, 2005, 11:19:07 PM
Hmm a pity we can't pick more than one. I personally hate jumps and rapid octaves.. =(
Accidentals and rhythm get in the way only when I'm still in the process of learning. Once I've sorted the notes and rhythm then it's no longer a problem =)
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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #15 on: July 04, 2005, 02:39:39 AM
I really hate parallel chords. They bug me off.
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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #16 on: July 04, 2005, 03:51:30 AM
Hahaha. Definitely accidentals and particularly double sharps and double flats.
>:( >:( >:(

actually, i cant stand broken octaves or broken sixths

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Re: Techniques you HATE playing
Reply #17 on: July 04, 2005, 03:58:03 AM
I'm actually kinda getting used to thirds, just kept practicing random exercises I found so those are now not my least favorite...  It's accidentals, I find those are the most difficult to sight read and get a general feel for the piece, and I usuaally stop from bordome of decoding a mass of accidentals...  For example it's in C sharp minor and the accidentals turn it into B flat major..
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