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Offline steinwayguy

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Famous works you haven't heard
on: July 07, 2005, 03:52:08 AM
There are a lot, for I am young!

Rachmaninoff's 1st and 4th Piano Concerti
Beethoven's Eroica Symphony
Beethoven's Eroica Variations
Bach's Goldberg Variations (yes, that's right!)
Prokofiev's 3rd Sonata
Prokofiev's 2nd Concerto
Rachmaninoff's Corelli Variations
Brahms' Variations on a Theme by Schumann
Debussy's Etudes and two books of Preludes

more to come, I'm sure...

Offline mlsmithz

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #1 on: July 07, 2005, 04:18:52 AM
There are a fair few for me as well, and I don't even have the excuse of being young:

Prokofiev: Concerto No.2
Rachmaninov: Many of the Etudes-Tableaux and Moments Musicaux
Schubert: Symphony No.9, the 'Great C major' (or the 'Little C major', No.6, for that matter)
Mendelssohn: the piano concertos (but I have heard the two-piano concerto in E major), many of the 'Chansons sans paroles'
Beethoven: Diabelli variations
Debussy: Book II of the Preludes
Ravel: Gaspard de la nuit (I must be one of a single-digit number of such people here)
Bach: Most of WTC Book II (but I know Book I very well indeed)

Plus almost anything written after World War I by a non-eastern European composer, this largely because only in eastern Europe were composers strongarmed into writing tonal music under penalty of being sent to the gulag or worse; I just can't get into atonal music despite several attempts, so all of my favourite 20th century composers were Russians (except for the odd bit of Bartok or Kodaly).

And that's just what I can name offhand. :P

Offline orlandopiano

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #2 on: July 07, 2005, 04:20:10 AM
There are a lot, for I am young!

Rachmaninoff's 1st and 4th Piano Concerti
Beethoven's Eroica Symphony
Beethoven's Eroica Variations
Bach's Goldberg Variations (yes, that's right!)
Prokofiev's 3rd Sonata
Prokofiev's 2nd Concerto
Rachmaninoff's Corelli Variations
Brahms' Variations on a Theme by Schumann
Debussy's Etudes and two books of Preludes

more to come, I'm sure...

I've played the Prokofiev 2nd Concerto, and I feel it is one of the great concertos in the entire repoertoire.  I really wish it was played more.

Offline presto agitato

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #3 on: July 07, 2005, 04:28:51 AM
90% of Dvorak´s piano works are masterpieces that of all you should hear. He is underrated in this forum
The masterpiece tell the performer what to do, and not the performer telling the piece what it should be like, or the cocomposer what he ought to have composed.

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Offline steinwayguy

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #4 on: July 07, 2005, 05:00:19 AM
90% of Dvorak´s piano works are masterpieces that of all you should hear. He is underrated in this forum

I hear his concerto is quite a snore.

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #5 on: July 07, 2005, 09:11:41 AM
Dvorak concerto is extremely boring (just to confirm).  And steinwayguy, you should seriously listen to Rach1.  Rach4 is quite different, and if your looking for rach2/rach3 sounding concertos, its certainly not rach4.  But honestly you shouldnt rest until you hear Rach1.  Im sure somebody here can send it to you, and if not, I can in a couple days.
SAM

Offline luc

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #6 on: July 07, 2005, 09:58:47 AM
I havn't ever heard the Goldberg variations either.
And I havn't heard a single piece by Rachmaninoff yet (no, it's not a joke)
OSMOSE NOW

Offline Skeptopotamus

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #7 on: July 07, 2005, 10:32:00 AM
prokofiev's 9th sonata.  only seen the sheets.

Offline stormx

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #8 on: July 07, 2005, 11:16:40 AM
Nothing by Mahler   :o :o
Nothing by Wagner   :o :o
Nothing by Shostakovich  :o :o

I bet i have no rival in music ignorance  ;D ;D

Offline TheHammer

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #9 on: July 07, 2005, 11:36:15 AM
Will get my first recording of Rachmaninov Concerti 1 and 4 in a couple of days, as well as Prokofiev Nr. 2....

until now I did not listen to: any symphonies by Schumann, Mendelssohn, Rachmaninov
many stuff of Bach: one example I really regret: St. Matthew Passion
Mozart, not even close to all PCs, or symphonies... :(
Schubert, the Great Symphonie in C, Piano Sonata D. 960
Scriabin, nothing except the Sonatas and Prometheus...and some Preludes in Concert I think...
not heard much of Dvorak (what can you recommend?), Prokofiev, Bartok, and atonal isn't really in my play list (YET!)
and I would really like to listen to late-romantic string quartets, so please someone give a recommendation! I am really lost on this issue...
(sorry, I will just use the best excuse: I am young...hehe, no seriously, I have not been into classical music for more than 2 years.... :o, although playing classical piano for longer than 11 years...fascinating, isn't it?)


How someone can have avoided listening to the Eroica is a complete mystery for me. You have to have steinwayguy!

And stormx, of the three I would definitely miss Mahler the most, get his symphonies now! Mahler is up to now in my Top 5, if not Top 3....

Offline BoliverAllmon

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #10 on: July 07, 2005, 12:48:02 PM
90% of Dvorak´s piano works are masterpieces that of all you should hear. He is underrated in this forum

well then there is my list. Dvorak

Offline dbrainiak914

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #11 on: July 07, 2005, 01:21:44 PM
I adore Rach 4.  Please don't listen to anyone's other than Michelangeli, though, or else you prolly won't appreciate it. 
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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #12 on: July 07, 2005, 01:46:26 PM
90% of Dvorak´s piano works are masterpieces that of all you should hear. He is underrated in this forum


I agree


I haven't heard most works by Prokofiev, Stravinsky or Berlioz.
Fortune favours the musical.

Offline luc

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #13 on: July 07, 2005, 01:55:38 PM
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90% of Dvorak´s piano works are masterpieces that of all you should hear. He is underrated in this forum
yes! I love his symphonies
OSMOSE NOW

Offline Waldszenen

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #14 on: July 07, 2005, 02:04:44 PM
If you want a true masterpiece, listen to his Cello Concerto (especially the recordings by Rostropovich and Du Pre).
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Offline Bouter Boogie

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #15 on: July 07, 2005, 02:08:03 PM
Dvorak concerto is extremely boring (just to confirm).  And steinwayguy, you should seriously listen to Rach1.  Rach4 is quite different, and if your looking for rach2/rach3 sounding concertos, its certainly not rach4.  But honestly you shouldnt rest until you hear Rach1.  Im sure somebody here can send it to you, and if not, I can in a couple days.
SAM

Do you mean his piano concerto? Because I think it's quite good  :) Not as good as his symphonies of course, but still..
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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #16 on: July 07, 2005, 02:09:05 PM
yes! I love his symphonies

Me too  :D  :D Especially his From The New World Symphony  :o  :o
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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #17 on: July 07, 2005, 02:14:23 PM
Me too  :D  :D Especially his From The New World Symphony  :o  :o


Funny you mention the single work Dvorak is most remembered for - go listen to the other eight now. :D
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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #18 on: July 07, 2005, 02:41:40 PM
4'33"         ;)
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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #19 on: July 07, 2005, 07:04:07 PM
the one I want to hear is prokofiev's 8th sonata

anyone know where a midi is?

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #20 on: July 07, 2005, 07:18:23 PM
For some reason, I have never got round to hearing any of the Bartok or Prok Concerto's
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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #21 on: July 07, 2005, 08:00:36 PM
the rach. 1 is a great piece. Also the Haydn and Schubert sonatas are usually overlooked but are awesome works. nice topic, steinwayguy! I mean, really... way to go out on a limb and give us a nice way to spend our day!

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #22 on: July 08, 2005, 12:29:21 AM
I didn't hear the ENTIRE Rachmaninoff Concerto No. 2 until yesterday. Of course, I had listened to the 3rd Mvt. many times but...never the entire thing. It's not my favorite Rachmaninoff.

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #23 on: July 08, 2005, 03:38:49 AM
the one I want to hear is prokofiev's 8th sonata

anyone know where a midi is?

You should not rest until you get a hold of the Richter recording. Touted as what could quite possibly be the greatest Prokofiev recording ever made.

Offline Skeptopotamus

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #24 on: July 08, 2005, 03:44:00 AM
There are quite a few pieces I havent heard, but only because I have no interest in hearing them; not because I couldn't be listening to them right now like the Schubert, Bruckner and Mahler Symphonies.

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #25 on: July 08, 2005, 11:04:25 PM
Any musician who doesn't have any interest at all in Schubert or Mahler symphonies really should consider another career.

Offline mlsmithz

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Re: Famous works you haven't heard
Reply #26 on: July 08, 2005, 11:24:13 PM
the one I want to hear is prokofiev's 8th sonata

anyone know where a midi is?
You'd be lucky to find a MIDI of the Prokofiev 8th; it was written some time during World War II (not sure of the exact date) and is therefore still copyright protected.  Still, there are probably a few sites hosted in countries with more lenient copyright laws which have MIDIs of at least part of the sonata.... though where such sites are concerned, caveat auditor - the quality of the files and the sites themselves are not exactly at Classical Archives levels.  If nothing else, they could give you an idea of how the sonata should sound so you would know what to expect when putting money down for a recording (one of the best uses of MIDI in my opinion).
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