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Topic: Showpan Prelude 24 D Minor Bass  (Read 4218 times)

Offline Siberian Husky

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Showpan Prelude 24 D Minor Bass
on: July 15, 2005, 09:08:56 AM
i have a question in regards to the bass in this Showpan piece...is mindless repetition the only way to engrave these "jumps" or "hand tosses"...or is there a more structured way of going about the bass in this piece?..the speed of this piece demands a relaxed wrist with these quick tosses..also..im having trouble with keeping the tone down on the jumps to F and A with the thumb..they really seem to hit hard..how can one toss a jump efficiently at such speeds without sacrificing quality of sound?
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Re: Showpan Prelude 24 D Minor Bass
Reply #1 on: July 15, 2005, 07:13:33 PM
does anyone have experience with this showpan prelude?..or experience with hand toss/jumps like these?..im sure SOMEONE does
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Re: Showpan Prelude 24 D Minor Bass
Reply #2 on: July 15, 2005, 08:35:26 PM
I played Chopin Etude no. 8 and the L.H has a lot of jumps in it. I just worked with the "bounce" of the piano .  You can also try adding an extra octave between jumps, that will make the jumps you actually have to play seem easy. Try changing the dynamics around, playing it as soft and as loud as you can. Basicly, I would keep playing it in differant ways to avoid mindless repition until I found something that worked.

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Re: Showpan Prelude 24 D Minor Bass
Reply #3 on: July 15, 2005, 09:01:40 PM
that extra octave jump tip might help, perhaps i can trick myself into believing the actual jump itself isnt as difficult..i like that...
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Re: Showpan Prelude 24 D Minor Bass
Reply #4 on: July 16, 2005, 06:22:04 AM
I played Chopin Etude no. 8 and the L.H has a lot of jumps in it. I just worked with the "bounce" of the piano . You can also try adding an extra octave between jumps, that will make the jumps you actually have to play seem easy. Try changing the dynamics around, playing it as soft and as loud as you can. Basicly, I would keep playing it in differant ways to avoid mindless repition until I found something that worked.

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Re: Showpan Prelude 24 D Minor Bass
Reply #5 on: December 31, 2006, 12:19:48 AM
it's showpin
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Re: Showpan Prelude 24 D Minor Bass
Reply #6 on: January 01, 2007, 12:54:20 PM
Try flexible wrist, try not to stiffen up there.  Let the wrist follow the fingers (or the thumb in this case), in the direction they go. 

Also try using the 3rd finger as a pivot remaining on top of a median note between bass and thumb notes while flexing the wrist and aiming with the tips of the fingers. 
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Re: Showpan Prelude 24 D Minor Bass
Reply #7 on: January 01, 2007, 07:45:08 PM
I will second quantum here, do hold that A with your third finger. The motion gets much less chaotic then, and you can hit with the thumb while the hand is still relaxed and resting on the 3rd finger.
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Re: Showpan Prelude 24 D Minor Bass
Reply #8 on: January 01, 2007, 10:59:07 PM

I found it useful to watch this:



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Re: Showpan Prelude 24 D Minor Bass
Reply #9 on: January 02, 2007, 12:16:45 AM
I found it useful to watch this:



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This is a great performance! Thanks for posting.

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Re: Showpan Prelude 24 D Minor Bass
Reply #10 on: January 02, 2007, 04:02:14 AM

Agreed. And I think it shows the 'movement' very well. I can now play that figure pretty easily, whereas before I could it difficult as hell. I think I was trying to be too rigid, playing the 10th as a stretch and then trying to zip upto the 12th. But actually, its quiet a fluid motion, nothing uncomfortable at all!

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