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Allright, now here's the thing.  I just got back home and have persuaded my mum to get me a load of music for my birthday.  I went to this awsome little second hand CD shop and have bought a load of stuff but it's mainly the orchestral things that i know i need to listen to for my course.  Now i've got all the essentials i need some new listening just for fun, so i defer to you guys to expand my collection, which is depressingly small.  I don't want any more Debussy, Ravel, Chopin, Beethoven or Rachmaninov i'm pretty complete on those but please list anything good.  Oh yeah just piano stuff, i've got enough orchestral to be going on with.

[alzado]

You are right.  On the Forum, it appears that 95% of the discussion is just about a short list of composers.  This is okay, really, but does not suggest much of an understanding of the "big picture."

If you are enjoying some orchestral material, try Ralph Vaughan Williams.

I suggest, for a beginner's sampler of his writing -------

Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis
Five Variants on Dives and Lazarus
Lark Ascending

He also has symphonies, concertos, and considerable choral music.  But the above will be enough to see if you like him.

I think he is the cat's meow.

[jeremyjchilds]

I'd day either pick up a Finch CD or any short piano pieces by brahms (sorry about my short lister here)

[bernhard]

Pre-Baroque and early Baroque:

1.   Very important: William Byrd, Orlando Gibbons, Henry Purcell, Lully, Frescobaldi

2.   Not so important: The Fitzwilliam Virginal book, John Bull, Giles Farnaby

3.   Obscure: John Munday, Martin Peerson, Peter Phillips, Thomas Tomkins

Baroque:

1.   Very important: J.S. Bach, Scarlatti, Handel, Telemann, Rameau, Couperin

2.   Not so important: Thomas Arne, John Blow, Jeremiah Clarke, D’Anglebert, Dandrieu, Dacquin, Jean Baptiste Loeillet, Domenico Alberti, Domenico Cimarosa, Benedetto Marcello, Pietro Paradies, Pasquini, Pergolesi, Pescetti, Ferdinando Turrini, Domenico Zipoli, Mateo Albeniz, Antonio Soler, Carlos Seixas, Dietrich Buxtehude, Froberger, Kuhnau, Krebs, Kirnberger, Gottlieb Muffat, Pachelbel, Sweelinck

3.   Obscure: William Croft, Chambonieres, Jacques Duphly, Elizabeth de la Guerre, Azzolino della Ciaja, Giovanni Grazioli, Gianbatista Martini, Giovanni Picchi, Giovanni Platti, Michelangelo Rossi, Giovanni Rutini, Rafael Anglos, Cantallos, Narciso Casanovas, Mateo Ferrer, Freixanet, Jose Galles, Felipe Rodriguez, Blas Serrano, Sousa Carvalho, Rodriguez Coelho, Frei Jacinto, Johann Eberlin Johann Fischer, Carl Heinrich Graun, Samuel Scheidt, Georg Wagenseil

Classical:

1. Very important: Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven

2. Not so important: C.P.E. Bach, J. C. Bach, W. F. Bach, Clementi, Dussek, Hummel

3. Obscure: Hassler, Mehul

Romantic:

1. Very important: Chopin, Liszt, Schumann, Isaac Albeniz, Brahms, Grieg, Faure, Granados, Mendelssohn, Schubert, Tchaikovsky

2. Not so important: Alkan, Arensky, Balakireff, Borodin, Chabrier, Dvorak, Cesar Franck, John Field, Niels Gade, Glazounov, Godowsky, Gottschalk, Mussorgski, Respighi, Saint Saens, Smetana, Sgambatti, Weber

3. Obscure: Sterndale-Bennett, Ferucio Busoni, Chaminade, Gliere, Amy Beach, Gurlitt, Heller, Kirchner, Fuchs, Henselt,  Jensen, Liadov , Moskowski , Reinagle, Reinecke,  Rust , Scharwenka                                                                                                                                                       


Post-romantic & modern:

1. Very important: Debussy, Ravel, Prokofiev, Stravinsky, Rachmaninoff, Arvo Part, Phillip Glass, John Cage, Shostakovich, Bartok, Charles Ives, Elliot Carter, Alban Berg, Schoenberg, Webern, Hindemith, Manuel de Falla, Kodaly, Messiaen, Satie. Scriabin

2.Not so important: Barber, Gershwin, D’Indy, Milhaud, Poulenc, Villa-Lobos Liapunov, MacDowell, Medtner, Reger, Richard Strauss, Arnold Bax, Lennox Berkeley, Richard Rodney Bennett, Ginastera, Britten, Dukas, Ibert, John Ireland, Monpou, Deodat de Severac, Szimanowski, Elgar, Tippet, Delius, Copland, Grainger, Griffes

3. Obscure: Gretchaninoff, Martucci, Isidore Philipp, Rebikov, Ravina, Rakov, Rietti, Rheinberger, Rosenthal, Rubinstein, Schelling, Schulz-Evler, Sinding, Sjogren, Schutt, Schyte, Stanford, Stojowski, Presner, Alexandrow, Barraud, Stanley Bate, Victor Belyi, Berezovsky, Casadesus, Casella, Castelnuovo-Tedesco, Durey, Eisler, Enesco, Samuel Feinberg, Manuel Infante, Phillipe Jarnach, Vitor Carbajo, Jolivet, Jelobinsky, Kabalevski, Charles Koechlin, Miaskowsky, Moeran, Hovhaness, Tansman, Joaquin Turina, Ernst Bloch, Paul Bowles, Paul Creston , Manuel de Ponce


By no means a complete list, just the very tip of the iceberg. 

Now get googling.

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[Barbosa-piano]

Pre-Baroque and early Baroque:

1.   Very important: William Byrd, Orlando Gibbons, Henry Purcell, Lully, Frescobaldi

2.   Not so important: The Fitzwilliam Virginal book, John Bull, Giles Farnaby

3.   Obscure: John Munday, Martin Peerson, Peter Phillips, Thomas Tomkins

Baroque:

1.   Very important: J.S. Bach, Scarlatti, Handel, Telemann, Rameau, Couperin

2.   Not so important: Thomas Arne, John Blow, Jeremiah Clarke, D’Anglebert, Dandrieu, Dacquin, Jean Baptiste Loeillet, Domenico Alberti, Domenico Cimarosa, Benedetto Marcello, Pietro Paradies, Pasquini, Pergolesi, Pescetti, Ferdinando Turrini, Domenico Zipoli, Mateo Albeniz, Antonio Soler, Carlos Seixas, Dietrich Buxtehude, Froberger, Kuhnau, Krebs, Kirnberger, Gottlieb Muffat, Pachelbel, Sweelinck

3.   Obscure: William Croft, Chambonieres, Jacques Duphly, Elizabeth de la Guerre, Azzolino della Ciaja, Giovanni Grazioli, Gianbatista Martini, Giovanni Picchi, Giovanni Platti, Michelangelo Rossi, Giovanni Rutini, Rafael Anglos, Cantallos, Narciso Casanovas, Mateo Ferrer, Freixanet, Jose Galles, Felipe Rodriguez, Blas Serrano, Sousa Carvalho, Rodriguez Coelho, Frei Jacinto, Johann Eberlin Johann Fischer, Carl Heinrich Graun, Samuel Scheidt, Georg Wagenseil

Classical:

1. Very important: Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven

2. Not so important: C.P.E. Bach, J. C. Bach, W. F. Bach, Clementi, Dussek, Hummel

3. Obscure: Hassler, Mehul

Romantic:

1. Very important: Chopin, Liszt, Schumann, Isaac Albeniz, Brahms, Grieg, Faure, Granados, Mendelssohn, Schubert, Tchaikovsky

2. Not so important: Alkan, Arensky, Balakireff, Borodin, Chabrier, Dvorak, Cesar Franck, John Field, Niels Gade, Glazounov, Godowsky, Gottschalk, Mussorgski, Respighi, Saint Saens, Smetana, Sgambatti, Weber

3. Obscure: Sterndale-Bennett, Ferucio Busoni, Chaminade, Gliere, Amy Beach, Gurlitt, Heller, Kirchner, Fuchs, Henselt, Jensen, Liadov , Moskowski , Reinagle, Reinecke, Rust , Scharwenka


Post-romantic & modern:

1. Very important: Debussy, Ravel, Prokofiev, Stravinsky, Rachmaninoff, Arvo Part, Phillip Glass, John Cage, Shostakovich, Bartok, Charles Ives, Elliot Carter, Alban Berg, Schoenberg, Webern, Hindemith, Manuel de Falla, Kodaly, Messiaen, Satie. Scriabin

2.Not so important: Barber, Gershwin, D’Indy, Milhaud, Poulenc, Villa-Lobos Liapunov, MacDowell, Medtner, Reger, Richard Strauss, Arnold Bax, Lennox Berkeley, Richard Rodney Bennett, Ginastera, Britten, Dukas, Ibert, John Ireland, Monpou, Deodat de Severac, Szimanowski, Elgar, Tippet, Delius, Copland, Grainger, Griffes

3. Obscure: Gretchaninoff, Martucci, Isidore Philipp, Rebikov, Ravina, Rakov, Rietti, Rheinberger, Rosenthal, Rubinstein, Schelling, Schulz-Evler, Sinding, Sjogren, Schutt, Schyte, Stanford, Stojowski, Presner, Alexandrow, Barraud, Stanley Bate, Victor Belyi, Berezovsky, Casadesus, Casella, Castelnuovo-Tedesco, Durey, Eisler, Enesco, Samuel Feinberg, Manuel Infante, Phillipe Jarnach, Vitor Carbajo, Jolivet, Jelobinsky, Kabalevski, Charles Koechlin, Miaskowsky, Moeran, Hovhaness, Tansman, Joaquin Turina, Ernst Bloch, Paul Bowles, Paul Creston , Manuel de Ponce


By no means a complete list, just the very tip of the iceberg.

Now get googling.

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

Interesting list, I would check this poster also:https://www.mfiles.co.uk/poster/index.htm. It shows many composers from different time periods, though not all, probably...

Allright, now here's the thing. I just got back home and have persuaded my mum to get me a load of music for my birthday. I went to this awsome little second hand CD shop and have bought a load of stuff but it's mainly the orchestral things that i know i need to listen to for my course. Now i've got all the essentials i need some new listening just for fun, so i defer to you guys to expand my collection, which is depressingly small. I don't want any more Debussy, Ravel, Chopin, Beethoven or Rachmaninov i'm pretty complete on those but please list anything good. Oh yeah just piano stuff, i've got enough orchestral to be going on with.

Maybe you would like to hear Villa-Lobos' music, a little more Bach and Scarlatti, Eliott Carter, Prokofiev, Couperin, Rameau... Their music is great.

[bernhard]

Interesting list, I would check this poster also:https://www.mfiles.co.uk/poster/index.htm. It shows many composers from different time periods, though not all, probably...

Great poster!

Muito obrigado!

Best wishes
Bernhard.

[Barbosa-piano]

 Well Bernhard, you surprised me once more... Do you speak Portuguese?

 De nada!

Sincerely,
Mario Barbosa.

 By the way, I don't know why, but I thought that was hilarious!...

[bernhard]

Well Bernhard, you surprised me once more... Do you speak Portuguese?

 

Só um pouquinho... O suficiente para sobreviver (e reproduzir )

[Barbosa-piano]

 What?? You have a very good orthography... Surprising...!
 Well Bernhard, have you ever been to Brazil, Portugal, or any other Portuguese speaking country?

Só um pouquinho... O suficiente para sobreviver (e reproduzir )

By the way... Ha ha ha 

[greyrune]

Cool thanks for the replies.  I'll definately check those out, it's great to have such a comprehensive list of composers.  Even if this is just the tip of the iceberg, i think i'll stay above water for now, don't want to drown just yet.  In a couple of years i'm sure i'll have built up a nice musical scuba kit and then i'll go diving, till then i'll be freezing my arse off with all the music everyone knows, lol.  Thanks again, and awsome poster by the way.