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Offline Nightscape

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Elusive concerti
on: July 16, 2005, 01:42:11 AM
Does anybody know of any elusive concerti? 

Offline Etude

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Re: Elusive concerti
Reply #1 on: July 16, 2005, 01:51:32 AM
Sorabji's 8 piano concerti.   8)

You don't get more elusive than Sorabji.

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Re: Elusive concerti
Reply #2 on: July 16, 2005, 02:08:10 AM
Sorabji's 8 piano concerti.   8)

You don't get more elusive than Sorabji.

Easily! Sorabji, by now, is as well known as a checkered blue dog.

But have you heard the concerti of

Wood
Huss
Litolff
Vianna da Motta
Scharwenka
Mozkowski
Dohnanyi
Holbrooke
Stojowski
Pierne
Arensky
Bortkiewicz
von Henselt
Eugen d'Albert
von Sauer
Stanford
Parry
Glazunov
Goedicke
Hahn
Schelling
mark
Tovey
Mackenzie
Bruell
Kullak
Dreyschock
Lyapunov
Fuchs
Kiel
Herz
Nápravník
Blumenfeld

They are all romantics to late-romantics and thus comparable in sound to Rachmaninoff and Tchaikowski. A lot of them come close or are in fact equal to those two.

Offline ramseytheii

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Re: Elusive concerti
Reply #3 on: July 16, 2005, 04:59:18 AM
There is the Busoni, and I believe Furtwaengler also has a piano concerto.

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Re: Elusive concerti
Reply #4 on: July 16, 2005, 07:55:27 PM
Easily! Sorabji, by now, is as well known as a checkered blue dog.

But have you heard the concerti of

Wood
Huss
Litolff
Vianna da Motta
Scharwenka
Mozkowski
Dohnanyi
Holbrooke
Stojowski
Pierne
Arensky
Bortkiewicz
von Henselt
Eugen d'Albert
von Sauer
Stanford
Parry
Glazunov
Goedicke
Hahn
Schelling
mark
Tovey
Mackenzie
Bruell
Kullak
Dreyschock
Lyapunov
Fuchs
Kiel
Herz
Nápravník
Blumenfeld

They are all romantics to late-romantics and thus comparable in sound to Rachmaninoff and Tchaikowski. A lot of them come close or are in fact equal to those two.

Have you been collecting the Hyperion Series????
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Offline xvimbi

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Re: Elusive concerti
Reply #5 on: July 16, 2005, 10:08:08 PM
Have you been collecting the Hyperion Series????

;D Indeed! And some others. You will realize that I had left out Moscheles, Busoni, Mendelssohn, Medtner, von Weber, and Saint-Saens, because these are not that elusive.

Offline Skeptopotamus

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Re: Elusive concerti
Reply #6 on: July 17, 2005, 01:08:43 AM
Carter Pann.  It is absolutely incredible; it's so close to becoming my top favorite.    My other favorite is the Massenet, also generally unheard of, both of which I'm contemplating working on =)

Offline burstroman

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Re: Elusive concerti
Reply #7 on: July 23, 2005, 06:01:59 AM
Hi:  Elusive?
      Carlos Chavez
      Ferrucio Busoni
      Amy Beach

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Re: Elusive concerti
Reply #8 on: July 23, 2005, 07:58:55 AM
busoni
"da chop haz little fury, derefore da chop is no good. da god haz fury, derefore da god is good. da only way chop haz fury is if da god tranzcribez hiz etudes. dis is evident" - a quote by moi

Offline pianomann1984

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Re: Elusive concerti
Reply #9 on: July 23, 2005, 07:31:07 PM
herbert howells
"What would you do if you weren't afraid?"

Offline pita bread

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Re: Elusive concerti
Reply #10 on: July 24, 2005, 07:41:39 PM
Messiaen concerti
Scriabin concerto
Busoni wrote other concerti than the notorious Op. 39, including the Concerto for Piano and String Quartet and Indian Fantasy.
Debussy Fantasy for Piano and Orchestra
Villa-Lobos concerti

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Re: Elusive concerti
Reply #11 on: July 24, 2005, 08:52:52 PM
I am not going into the uncommon/rare/obscure/elusive discussion

Some of my favorites:

Moscheles, No 6 and 7
Vianna da Motta, No 1
Arensky,  Op. 2
Glazunov, No 1 and 2 
Cramer, No. 8
Rautavaara. No 1 and 3
Reger Op. 114
Liszt, 'Malédiction' S121
Hummel, No 1-3 plus the concertino
Respighi PC in A Minor
Thalberg Op. 5
Kullak Op. 55
Dussek Op. 22
Swarwenka No.3 and 4
Fuchs Op.27


Most of them all sound the same, though. You wished some of them would be a bit more  imaginative and modern.

I also recommend the Medtner and Barber concertos to the people who haven't heard those..

I would like to hear the other Busoni concerto. Plus I bet one of those eight Sorabji concerto's is fun, but I have heard none. Ooh and maybe I'll add some late.r
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Re: Elusive concerti
Reply #12 on: July 25, 2005, 07:13:15 AM
I am not going into the uncommon/rare/obscure/elusive discussion

Some of my favorites:

Respighi PC in A Minor

I believe Respighi wrote a couple of "elusive" piano concerti.

Offline prometheus

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Re: Elusive concerti
Reply #13 on: July 25, 2005, 12:27:52 PM
Well, if he wrote more than one I want to hear the others too.
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Offline Dazzer

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Re: Elusive concerti
Reply #14 on: July 25, 2005, 02:01:03 PM
Hakka-toolree-urnn!!!!!!!! (Khachaturian)
medtner wrote a couple two i think.
carl vine.
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