Chopin again!

[squigly]

Hi! I am a beginner and a fan of Chopin's music. I have all the etudes in sheets and i want to ask the pros... (1.) when could someone be able to play these etudes? they are realy hard 
i have tried to play many of them but i can hardly play a few metres and not in full speed! ...  so i cryyyy a lot  ... (2.) which of them can u play (perfectly) and how many years do you play?  (3.) also these are the toughest pieces of Chopin? Thanks...

[steinwayguy]

1. A person with two years of experience, a good teacher and diligent practice could play the easier ones.
2. You can never play anything, much less a Chopin etude, perfectly. But, I have worked on of Opus 10- 1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 11 and Opus 25- 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 12
3. These are not the most difficult pieces by Chopin. I'd say the Ballades, Sonatas and Concerti are more difficult.

[invictus]

1)It took me 2 years of piano, then a further year of self teaching before i started on the etudes, they are not difficult, they just require a huge amount of skill
2)You can't play an etude perfectly, nor can you learn a whole etude and master it, they are for practicing your fingers, not for other purposes, a practise piece
3)They are and they are not, they are difficult technically, but not musically, if you want difficultly from chopin, check out his Ballades and his Scherzos

[steinwayguy]

1)It took me 2 years of piano, then a further year of self teaching before i started on the etudes, they are not difficult, they just require a huge amount of skill
2)You can't play an etude perfectly, nor can you learn a whole etude and master it, they are for practicing your fingers, not for other purposes, a practise piece
3)They are and they are not, they are difficult technically, but not musically, if you want difficultly from chopin, check out his Ballades and his Scherzos

I strongly, strongly disagree.

[pseudopianist]

2)You can't play an etude perfectly, nor can you learn a whole etude and master it, they are for practicing your fingers, not for other purposes, a practise piece

You are kidding me?

The 10:1 is was one of the first pieces I attempted as a pianonewbie but I didn't pull it off (duh)
I just started my 3rd year on the piano and am now studying the 25/5 and after that I will try the 10:1 again (I work on it for periods of time, I'm at the end of page 2 right now)

[jehangircama]

I've been playing 10:1 for some time but I can never play it at the marked speed. Can anyone here play it like that (the marking in my book is MM 176)

[i_m_robot]

after a good warmup (with a real piano)

self can play it at that speed (trying it cold can be acheful)

whether the piece is still recognisable is questionable though

[pseudopianist]

after a good warmup (with a real piano)

self can play it at that speed (trying it cold can be acheful)

whether the piece is still recognisable is questionable though

You sure do alot of slipups playing it slow so I would like to hear it at 176.

[squigly]

2)You can't play an etude perfectly, nor can you learn a whole etude and master it, they are for practicing your fingers, not for other purposes, a practise piece

What do you mean they are for practicing purposes only? these etudes are some of the most beautifull pieces i've heard. And why not play them perfectly?