how long before...

[fliszt]

hi,
im from holland and i've red some stuff here on this forum. Most questions i think are : when can i play this, when can i play that.. blablah.

how's your opinion about that? i think people that ask that kind of question just need a teacher and playing a piece isn't bonded to a certain period of time. Just practice, practice and practice.

How harder you practice and the more time you put in it, the sooner youll learn to play whatever you like.

[BoliverAllmon]

true, but a newbie has no business pulling out FI or Gaspard. The question then becomes how do you know your technical ability is good enough to practice these pieces.

boliver

[alzado]

And then perhaps we can distinguish between "learning to play the piano" and "playing the piano."

Many of us have already gone through the hard work of developing a level of skill with piano.  Carl Czerny, Hadon, scales, and so forth.  And the practice, practice, practice. 

There are pieces today I just cannot play because I got so deathly sick of them when much younger and learning.  Fur Elise, Moonlight Sonata, Claire de Lune.

I'm an older guy.  I no longer practice, do scales, do drills, or any of that.    I do play the piano for enjoyment.  Enough repertoire is within my reach that I do not worry about the many pieces that are beyond my reach. 

I believe that on the forum people with very differing goals are interacting.  Many younger  contributors are hungry to learn and improve and they can't wait to leave the method books aside and take up the composers' original scores. 

But . . . some of us are way beyond that.  We just like to play serious music for relaxation and enjoyment.   We have already learned enough to satisfy our wishes.   

So questions such as -- "How soon will I play XYZ?"  -- or -- "is Gaspard harder than the Mephisto Waltz?"  --  are questions it would not occur to us to ask.  We profoundly don't care.  If people want to post those questions, more power to them.  At their stage of piano, it may make sense.  (Even then, though, I am not sure it makes sense.)

No disrespect or offence intended    -- interesting posting --

[Bob]

No one can answer when someone else can play something.

The best answer I can think of is "when you're ready."

If it's a difficult piece, the learner will have enough knowledge of piano to know where they are and where the piece is.

Otherwise, just being very general... if you're a beginner, then easy pieces are within reach.  If you're advanced, you'll know it and more difficult pieces are possible.

It's not just practicing piano though.  You have to study theory and do some ear training to break into a high level of playing.

[Bouter Boogie]

hi,
im from holland and i've red some stuff here on this forum. Most questions i think are : when can i play this, when can i play that.. blablah.

how's your opinion about that? i think people that ask that kind of question just need a teacher and playing a piece isn't bonded to a certain period of time. Just practice, practice and practice.

How harder you practice and the more time you put in it, the sooner youll learn to play whatever you like.

I'm from Holland too! Which city are you from?

And to answer your question.. I agree with you, how should others know if you can play a piece in a certain period? Just practice 'till you can, that's my opinion