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The Compositions of John Carey
on: July 25, 2005, 03:37:09 AM
John Galt Carey

Composer / Pianist

www.johncareycomposer.com
www.youtube.com/johncareycomposer


Introduction:

Hello everyone!

It has been roughly six years since I virtually disappeared from this forum (for reasons that will become apparent in the rest of this post), but the time I left was well-spent, as these have been undoubtedly the most productive and transformative years of my life.

Whereas I mainly composed as a hobby before my absence, I have now chosen composition as my career path. Having now studied composition formally at The Hartt School of Music, my compositional abilities have progressed at a level I never imagined possible (as has my speed of output -- I've composed about nine new "major" works in the past four years, about 3 hours of music total).

Now that I've returned to the forum, I'd like to share what I've done since my departure, and hopefully receive some feedback from both those that are already familiar with my music, and of course, new listeners!


Background:

My name is John Galt Carey; I'm a pianist, composer, and avid listener to practically every type of music I have come across.

I grew up in a very artistically oriented household; my mother was a professional opera singer for about 20 years. After performing extensively in Europe, particularly Germany, she returned to the United States and started vocal coaching with the man who (in two years) would be my father. My mother was still very focused on her performing career when I was conceived, so I was exposed to a massive amount of wonderful music even prior to my birth! For the first five years of my life, I traveled across the country with my mother and had the opportunity to see her perform in a large variety of different operas. However, she put an end to her career as a singer when I got terribly sick on one particular trip. As a result, my family decided to move from California to New Hampshire in order to establish a vocal studio and settle down for the sake of my upbringing.

Certainly, my exposure to opera in my early childhood benefitted me greatly when I finally discovered my own love for music, which ironically didn't happen until I was about twelve years old. It was the piano sonatas of Beethoven that inspired me to become a pianist, which quickly sparked my interest in composing my own music. I decided that I wanted to start taking piano lessons, but I was entirely self taught as a composer for quite a few years thereafter. Ever since I began my musical journey, I've gone through a multitude of musical obsessions, devouring the works of a variety of different composers (Beethoven, Rachmaninoff, Mahler, Sorabji...), and then eventually moving on to other genres, such as jazz (which I specialized in for a good deal of time), rock, metal, electronic music, and whatever else sparked my interest.

After progressing about as far as I could without formal training (my last piece written without having ever taken a composition lesson is my Rhapsody for Orchestra from 2009), I decided to pursue a degree in composition, and attended the Hartt School of Music. Though my musical knowledge was already at such a level that the head of the department once remarked, "we should hand him a PHD on the spot!" after our first conversation, the experience of being constantly immersed in the world of composing caused me to become quite prolific and allowed my music to develop to an entirely different level.


Style:

My music combines a lot of different elements found in the music of composers and musicians that have inspired me (not limited to classical music), and my ultimate goal has been to utilize these influences in ways that are in no way cliché or derivative. Thankfully, I believe I've managed to accomplish that goal, as I feel I've developed a style that is fairly unique. At the root of my style are a few basic elements: "obsessive" motivic development, tonal ambiguity, harmonic language based primarily on polytonality, frequent rhythmic shifts, and generally free formal structures. From a less technical standpoint, my style is intended to evoke a fantastical, dream-like atmosphere, inspired primarily by my own interest in altered states of consciousness that can achieved through methods such as meditation, hypnosis, and lucid dreaming.


Recordings:

Here I will post the works that I believe are my best compositions and also the most accurate representations of my musical personality. If you're interested in hearing my earlier works, they can be found on my website (www.johncareycomposer.com/Recordings.html).


Concerto for Viola and Orchestra (2012)

I. Lento - Maestoso - More Lively - Giocoso
II: Theme and Variations
III. Allegro Molto


Visions for Wind Quintet (2011)


Sonata for Cello and Harp (2011)

I. Rubato
II. Vivace, Like a Dance
III. Adagio
IV. Presto


String Quartet "Reflections and Revelations" (2010)

I. Adagio - Presto - Fugato
II. Agitato
III. Adagio


Fantasy for Two Pianos (2010) [Performed by John Carey and Kyle Landry]


Sonata for Violin and Piano (2009)

I. Slowly and mysteriously - Quickly, with urgency [Performed by Sarah Attwood, Violin, and John Carey, Piano]
II. Adagio. Tranquil, with a sense of yearning
III. Presto


Rhapsody for Orchestra (2009)



Ballade for Piano and Four Stringed Instruments


Recordings of the rest of my works (including those in other genres) may be found here: www.johncareycomposer.com/Recordings.html

Scores can be found here.


Videos (with scores):

Prelude in A Minor for piano (2005)




Sonata for Violin and Piano, I. Slowly and mysteriously - Quickly, with urgency (2009)




Fantasy for Two Pianos (2010)




Sonata for Cello and Harp, II. Vivace, like a dance (2011)




Many more videos (including those of live performances I've given on piano) can be found on my YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/johncareycomposer

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I do hope you enjoy my music!

P.S. I immensely value ALL feedback! Feel free to be as detailed or as brief as you like -- even the simplest comments are incredibly helpful to me.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #1 on: July 25, 2005, 03:38:56 AM
Note: In some of the files (like the 1st movement of the symphony at 4:18) there are places where the music abruptly stops for a second and picks up again. This is a problem with the software. I did not write it like that.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #2 on: July 25, 2005, 04:16:41 PM
By the way, nobody should feel obligated to critique. Any feedback, regardless of the amount of detail included or the degree of knowledge possessed by the individual providing it, is greatly appreciated!

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #3 on: July 25, 2005, 05:54:06 PM
Bravo! I enjoyed listening very much!!  However I detect a little bit of 2001: a space odyssey at the end of your symphony.  haha but dont get me wrong- its far from being lame and derivative.  I am very impressed for the most part, however there isnt much about your symphony or the preludes that would make me listen over and over again.  They seem pretty similar in tone, despite their different keys.  Prelude No.3 sounds so much like Beethoven, exept for the end, where you add those repeated low notes like you seem to have everywhere else in all the other compositions. I think you need a special motif - that little something to draw the ear through the piece.  This is what makes Rachmaninoff's concerti or Liszt's B-minor sonata so popular and immortal.
But I still am glad I took the time to listen.  Thanks so much!
donjuan 

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #4 on: July 25, 2005, 07:22:17 PM
Bravo! I enjoyed listening very much!!  However I detect a little bit of 2001: a space odyssey at the end of your symphony.  haha but dont get me wrong- its far from being lame and derivative.  I am very impressed for the most part, however there isnt much about your symphony or the preludes that would make me listen over and over again.  They seem pretty similar in tone, despite their different keys.  Prelude No.3 sounds so much like Beethoven, exept for the end, where you add those repeated low notes like you seem to have everywhere else in all the other compositions. I think you need a special motif - that little something to draw the ear through the piece.  This is what makes Rachmaninoff's concerti or Liszt's B-minor sonata so popular and immortal.
But I still am glad I took the time to listen.  Thanks so much!
donjuan 

Thank you very much for your positive feedback and suggestions. I'm glad you enjoyed my music!

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #5 on: July 25, 2005, 07:42:54 PM
I listened to your preludes and your symphony. The symphony has some stunningly gorgeous moments in it, there's a theme in the second movement which really struck me. What software/midi equipment do you use to compose these? My midi card does not sound nearly that good.

Did I notice Atlas Shrugged as your avatar on your site? heh...change your name to Richard Halley and write the Concerto of Deliverance! I too find Ayn Rand's books inspiring!

You know its pretty rare to hear modern composers who have such a tremendous grasp of the craft of tonal melodies! I'm on my own journey to master this craft. Anyway, wonderful symphony.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #6 on: July 25, 2005, 08:07:38 PM
Thank you Derek!  :)

I use Finale for notation combined with Garritan Personal Orchestra to produce the recordings. The quality of this sample library (especially considering how little it costs) is terrific, though it can take quite a bit of time to get an adequate level of balance between instruments.

Anyway, thank you. I am very happy you liked the symphony!

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #7 on: July 26, 2005, 01:24:36 AM
Well... you know what I think, John.  ;D
"da chop haz little fury, derefore da chop is no good. da god haz fury, derefore da god is good. da only way chop haz fury is if da god tranzcribez hiz etudes. dis is evident" - a quote by moi

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #8 on: July 26, 2005, 01:49:27 AM
Truly beautiful, mr. JCarey.  I think I may join your forum.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #9 on: July 26, 2005, 02:11:28 AM
Truly beautiful, mr. JCarey.  I think I may join your forum.

Thank you, and please do. We always like to see new members join.  :)

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #10 on: July 27, 2005, 01:43:20 AM
Did I notice Atlas Shrugged as your avatar on your site? heh...change your name to Richard Halley and write the Concerto of Deliverance! I too find Ayn Rand's books inspiring!

So you think I should change my name from "John Galt" Carey to Richard Halley?

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #11 on: July 27, 2005, 02:01:03 AM
If you've invented a revolutionary motor, then no, otherwise, yes.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #12 on: July 30, 2005, 10:27:03 AM
hmm.... he appears to have left.


Hey, JCarey, great stuff!  I really enjoyed them.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #13 on: July 31, 2005, 12:40:48 AM
hmm.... he appears to have left.


Hey, JCarey, great stuff!  I really enjoyed them.

No, I'm still around. Thank you very much!

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #14 on: July 31, 2005, 05:14:32 AM
hey rachabji I listened to your etudes (sorry couldn't handle the midi symphony) and they were pretty good!  They could use some ornamentation but other than that I think they're quite nice.  They remind me of spooky music from old NES Casltevania video games ^^  The Phantom of the Opera might have played these if he was given a longer organ sequence.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #15 on: July 31, 2005, 05:29:15 AM
hey rachabji I listened to your etudes (sorry couldn't handle the midi symphony) and they were pretty good!  They could use some ornamentation but other than that I think they're quite nice.  They remind me of spooky music from old NES Casltevania video games ^^  The Phantom of the Opera might have played these if he was given a longer organ sequence.

Thank you. Regarding the quality (or lack thereof) of the recording: I didn't use general midi, but rather instruments from the sample library Garritan Personal Orchestra. While it is true that a sampled orchestra can never produce a truly realistic replication of a live performance, I did put a great deal of effort into making the symphony sound as close to "real" as I could, despite my relatively small amount of experience with this software. If I could persuade you to give it another chance, perhaps you might find the sampled instruments to be slightly more palatable than your initially did...?

In any case, thanks for your feedback. Castlevania? Admittedly that wasn't what I was going for, but interesting observation nevertheless!

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #16 on: July 31, 2005, 05:44:05 AM
i love castlevania ^^

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #17 on: July 31, 2005, 05:56:43 PM
First 'part' of the C-Major prelude reminds me a bit of Chopins Prelude op. 28 nr. 4
OSMOSE NOW

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #18 on: July 31, 2005, 11:45:31 PM
Hi-
      Your C minor prelude is impressive- more so than #1. Now if you'd write some using 20th century techniques---------

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #19 on: August 01, 2005, 12:19:11 AM
Now if you'd write some using 20th century techniques---------

Hmm, care to list some examples? Thanks.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #20 on: August 01, 2005, 01:51:04 AM
I'm just listening to the C major prelude.  Very cool piece! Is it a type of midi? Becuase the quality is amazing!

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #21 on: August 01, 2005, 01:58:49 AM
Just finished listening to the preludes!  Love build up to the end of the c- one.  I think it should end spectacularly though...... it builds up so well and then just kind of ends abruptly....
Medtner is my god.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #22 on: August 01, 2005, 02:06:31 AM
Thank you Fred!  :)

As for your question about the MIDI, I produce my recordings with Garritan Personal Orchestra.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #23 on: August 10, 2005, 02:43:29 AM
By the way, my forums are back up again.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #24 on: August 21, 2005, 04:12:56 AM
Here is a short sample of the 3rd movement of my Piano Concerto in C# Minor -- [SAMPLE REMOVED. Here is the complete movement. The full piece may be listened to on my Recordings page.)

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #25 on: September 08, 2005, 12:28:55 PM
Wow, I have to say that I'm very impressed. I like the sample from the third movement of the piano concerto, it's quite exciting and a very nice theme. I'm really looking forward to when the entire concerto is completed. I've listened to a couple of your preludes and I was impressed with them too but I haven't yet listened fully to your symphony. From what I've heard, Garritan Personal Orchestra does seem to have amazing quality. I think I might consider getting Finale 2006 some time which has that bundled with it, I'm thinking of composing some orchestral stuff myself. You've inspired me.  ;D

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #26 on: September 08, 2005, 02:56:03 PM
It is symphonies like this one that that make me remember why I like music so much.

Good job (and I wish I had more than a MIDI program....:( )

Terry

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Reply #27 on: September 08, 2005, 11:50:59 PM
Thank you very much, Sergei and Terry. I appreciate your feedback immensely!

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #28 on: September 10, 2005, 09:51:35 PM
Hello John,

      It's a nice collection. The recordings have a wide dynamic range, although no really quiet spots. Also, all the music sounded playable - there weren't any unplayably fast performances for example that the technology is capable of. Musically, parts of the prelude in Cmaj very strongly resembled parts of Satie's stuff - but only parts. Please don't take this as a severe criticism, but, if you weren't aware of the similarity, you might want to listen to his Gymnopedies again.

      You said the earlier MIDI files are of poor quality; can you describe the problem? In many cases, the MIDI files are fine, but the sound samples used to render them are of much lower quality than the GPO.

     The only other thing I would add is that the files didn't display any authorship/copyright information when I played them using Windows Media Player 10. Unless you are intending to do so, you might want to guard against your work falling into the public domain. Under U.S. law (1998 Digital Millenium Copyright Act), it can be a crime to falsify or alter authorship and/or rights information encoded in a file.

Regards,
Jim Ritchie

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Reply #29 on: September 26, 2005, 11:20:58 PM
Sorry for taking so long to respond! I didn't even notice there had been another reply!

It's a nice collection. The recordings have a wide dynamic range, although no really quiet spots. Also, all the music sounded playable - there weren't any unplayably fast performances for example that the technology is capable of. Musically, parts of the prelude in Cmaj very strongly resembled parts of Satie's stuff - but only parts. Please don't take this as a severe criticism, but, if you weren't aware of the similarity, you might want to listen to his Gymnopedies again.

Fair observation. Strangely enough, the Satie/Ravel Gymnopedie transciription hadn't even crossed my mind when I wrote this!

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You said the earlier MIDI files are of poor quality; can you describe the problem? In many cases, the MIDI files are fine, but the sound samples used to render them are of much lower quality than the GPO.

I used general MIDI, and the resulting sound files were almost unbearable to my ears. I almost felt at times that I would have done better to never listen to the computer playback of my music, because I often found myself intensely disliking the sound of my own music... which is, fortunately, no longer the case!

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The only other thing I would add is that the files didn't display any authorship/copyright information when I played them using Windows Media Player 10. Unless you are intending to do so, you might want to guard against your work falling into the public domain. Under U.S. law (1998 Digital Millenium Copyright Act), it can be a crime to falsify or alter authorship and/or rights information encoded in a file.

Good point; I will rectify this.

Thank you for taking the time to comment!

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #30 on: September 27, 2005, 11:37:21 AM
Hello John,
     Just wanted to be sure you were aware of the Satie similarity for your own evaluation.

     Regarding General MIDI  - that only associates an instrument type with a number. The sound one hears from any single instrument type (say piano) depends on the sound sample used.

Regards,
Jim Ritchie

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Reply #31 on: September 27, 2005, 08:52:50 PM
     Regarding General MIDI  - that only associates an instrument type with a number. The sound one hears from any single instrument type (say piano) depends on the sound sample used.

I honestly know virtually nothing about MIDI. However, I love GPO; It's a wonderful tool.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #32 on: September 28, 2005, 12:28:15 PM
Well, thanks for providing some nice samples of the GPO.
Regards,
Jim

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #33 on: September 29, 2005, 07:10:07 PM
Well, thanks for providing some nice samples of the GPO.
Regards,
Jim

You're quite welcome.  ;)

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #34 on: September 30, 2005, 09:36:00 PM
the concerto is nice. I am going to listen to the others soon.

boliver

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #35 on: October 02, 2005, 12:41:12 AM
the concerto is nice. I am going to listen to the others soon.

boliver

Thank you! I hope to have the rest of the 3rd movement up soon.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #36 on: October 04, 2005, 07:27:07 PM
I would like to direct everone to my new (and improved) forum - https://pianochat.proboards25.com/

There is much more to discuss here than there was on JCCCF:

  • General Piano Discussion
  • Discussions about repertoire, technique, and recordings
  • A showcase for sharing your own recordings
  • Discussions about any genre of music you wish
  • Individual composer discussion
  • A forum for sharing your own collection of recordings and sheetmusic
  • A forum for requesting sheetmusic and recordings
  • Discussion about other forums, from Piano Street to Da SDC

Join today!

Best regards,
John Carey

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #37 on: October 11, 2005, 01:41:42 PM
how long have you been composing JC

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #38 on: October 11, 2005, 07:21:33 PM
how long have you been composing JC

I'd say about 10 or 11 years.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #39 on: October 11, 2005, 07:44:08 PM
I have just added the first movement of my Piano Trio in F Minor.

https://www.johncareycompositions.com/compositions/pianotrio1/trio1-1.mp3

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Reply #40 on: October 11, 2005, 07:53:30 PM
I'd say about 10 or 11 years.

wow that long?

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Reply #41 on: October 11, 2005, 07:55:43 PM
wow that long?

Yes. Do note, however, that the list of compositions on my site does not include everything I have written so far. I have only listed what I consider my best works.

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Reply #42 on: October 12, 2005, 01:48:51 PM
Yes. Do note, however, that the list of compositions on my site does not include everything I have written so far. On my site, I have only listed what I consider my "best" compositions.

oh of course i understand.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #43 on: October 24, 2005, 06:35:07 PM
bump

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Reply #44 on: October 24, 2005, 07:08:28 PM
Sheet music available in all good book stores?  :-[
Working on: Schubert - Piano Sonata D.664, Ravel - Sonatine, Ginastera - Danzas Argentinas

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Reply #45 on: October 24, 2005, 07:12:10 PM
And your website is bust... or at least it doesn't work on mine with Firefox...
Working on: Schubert - Piano Sonata D.664, Ravel - Sonatine, Ginastera - Danzas Argentinas

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Reply #46 on: October 25, 2005, 02:53:25 AM
Sheet music available in all good book stores?  :-[

Don't I wish...  ;)

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Hmm... it's working fine for me.

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Reply #47 on: October 25, 2005, 03:29:35 AM
Hmm... it's working fine for me.

The problem is the pages without ,htm or .html are returned by apache as text/plain

like this :-

Code: [Select]
wget -S https://www.johncareycompositions.com/Contact2
--04:27:30--  https://www.johncareycompositions.com/Contact2
           => `Contact2.1'
Connecting to 192.168.0.3:3128... connected.
Proxy request sent, awaiting response...
  HTTP/1.0 200 OK
  Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:52:45 GMT
  Content-Length: 7996
  Content-Type: text/plain          <-------- Here
  Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7a PHP-CGI/0.1b

Firefox correctly treats them as plain text, so you see the html code, not the rendered final page.

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #48 on: October 25, 2005, 09:54:20 AM
The problem is the pages without ,htm or .html are returned by apache as text/plain

like this :-

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wget -S https://www.johncareycompositions.com/Contact2
--04:27:30-- https://www.johncareycompositions.com/Contact2
 => `Contact2.1'
Connecting to 192.168.0.3:3128... connected.
Proxy request sent, awaiting response...
 HTTP/1.0 200 OK
 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:52:45 GMT
 Content-Length: 7996
 Content-Type: text/plain <-------- Here
 Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7a PHP-CGI/0.1b

Firefox correctly treats them as plain text, so you see the html code, not the rendered final page.
Yes
Working on: Schubert - Piano Sonata D.664, Ravel - Sonatine, Ginastera - Danzas Argentinas

Offline JCarey

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Re: The Compositions of John Carey
Reply #49 on: October 25, 2005, 07:53:48 PM
Odd...

Does anyone else have this problem?
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