Prokofiev Tocatta

[nanabush]

Since I don't have a tocatta in my repertoire I want to start one.  I can pretty much sight read the entire Khatchataurian (sry for spelling)  Tocatta, but I am not fond of it.  I want to be able to at some point in time be able to play the Prokofiev Tocatta... does anyone know any pieces that I could learn that would help with the crazy technique required to play this Tocatta?  I'm in no rush to start, I just love the piece. 

[iumonito]

Why take a detour?  Start work on Op. 11 and isolate the parts that are more difficult for you.

If you really want to take the detour, get yourself some Scarlatti sonatas with hand crossing jumps (like K. 28) and do some Chopin Op. 10 # 2 and Op. 25 # 6 (IMO, harder than Prokofiev Op. 11).

For a total detour, try Prokofiev suggestion diabolique.  It is slightly shorter than the tocatta, but quite motoristic.  I bet you'll like it.

[Dazzer]

The biggest problem with the prokofiev toccata is actually playing it at an impressive enough speed. Alot of chromatic TURDS which pisses me off too.

[nanabush]

Thanks, ill look into those.  If anyone here has finished the Tocatta, how long did it take you?  I just want to know what I'm in for if I start it...

I tried the first page and found easy, but the second page the notes in the left hand seem to be going everywhere.  Is this something that I'll just have to get used to... or is there a trick...

[thierry13]

If you have the technique to play it, it won't take a lot of time to learn.

[dikai_yang]

Dazzer is right...
the notes to the toccata is actually quite simple
however, playing these notes at "suggested" speed is a completely different story...

[nanabush]

The part that began to stump me after I started this is the grace notes on the second page in sync with the jumping left hand.  I know it only gets more difficult, but I think I can do this...

EDIT:  Jumping LEFT hand

[Dazzer]

Thanks, ill look into those.  If anyone here has finished the Tocatta, how long did it take you?  I just want to know what I'm in for if I start it...

I tried the first page and found easy, but the second page the notes in the left hand seem to be going everywhere.  Is this something that I'll just have to get used to... or is there a trick...

after playing the first page for 2 years, i finally picked it up, and memorised it in a week.

that was 5 months ago.... Still can't play it up to speed...

Yes the left hand is a pregnant dog. There isn't any trick. Play it as it is.