obscure short modern pieces

[Skeptopotamus]

hi again ^^  I was wondering if you guys could recommend some shorter (as in no longer than 8 minutes and preferably less) modern works.  They don't have to be easy and they can be of any genre; avante-garde, serialism, neo-romanticism etc.... so anything like that.  Please don't recommend anything by Lowell Liebermann though because I hate him XD

[Skeptopotamus]

So far I'm looking at:

Berio Brin-Leaf
Boulez Douze Notations
Carter 90+
Kellogg Impetus
Messiaen Amen to the Stars, to the Ringed Planet
Nancarrow Sonatina
Rzewski North American Ballad No. 2
Schoenberg Six Little Pieces
Stockhausen Klavierstucke I-IV
Xenakis ar.  (it's actually not too bad)

any other suggestions along these lines?  And don't suggest a ligeti etude btw.  just dont XD

[pianonut]

messian, 'amen to the stars' sounds like it might fit in after the ravel.?  i don't really know.  (goes to listen)  does gaspard de la nuit mean 'wonders of night?' 

[pita bread]

Since when did you need help finding obscure repertoire?

Anyways, I think all this stuff is post-1950:

Sciarrino - Anamorfosi (this is part of Ravel's Jeux d'eau, moved down a whole step, and mixed with the melody "singin' in the rain")
Sciarrino - de la Nuit (collage of parts of Gaspard... not nearly as cool as the Anamorfosi)
Kernis - Superstar Etude
Morel - Etude #2
del Tredici - Virtuoso Alice
Messiaen - Quatre Etudes

[amanfang]

Try Three Preludes by Kent Kennan.  Or there's also his Retrospectives, but that may be longer than 8 minutes.  The preludes total around 5 minutes or so and are a nice set.

[Skeptopotamus]

messian, 'amen to the stars' sounds like it might fit in after the ravel.?  i don't really know.  (goes to listen)  does gaspard de la nuit mean 'wonders of night?' 

as far as i know.  But I think Xenakis's ar. would go better after Gespard, since it was a homage to ravel.  But then what would I play after the xenakis?  I don't think I'm up for learning a homage to Xenakis cause it was probably written by Finnissy and I'm not that good.  I'll Just make sure to play ar. last.  Thanks for that.  Otherwise I might not have thought of it.

[Nightscape]

What about something from Danielpour's "The Enchanted Garden"?

Libby Larsen's "Mephisto Rag" is 8 minutes, written in 2000 and could be interesting.

[Skeptopotamus]

HAHAHA I already play Mardi Gras XD

[pianonut]

good thinking.  i would have said that myself, if i knew that about xenaxis.  you are helping me, most kind fellow.  maybe i will print your list and ask my teacher the question adn then pop out the handy list.  of course, he will probably be like pita bread, amanfang, and nightscape and actually come up with some.  i just had the benefit of picking from a list.

i like it when one thing leads to another.  you, know, then you have something to say to the audience if you choose to say something. 

[pita bread]

Why don't you finish your Enchanted Garden?

[ted]

Something by David Thomas Roberts.

[thierry13]

messian, 'amen to the stars' sounds like it might fit in after the ravel.?  i don't really know.  (goes to listen)  does gaspard de la nuit mean 'wonders of night?' 

Gaspard is a french name for someone. So it means Gaspard of the night. So a nocturne dude.

[pita bread]

Gaspard de la Nuit roughly translates to "Devil of the night."

I've seen other things like "artful dodger of the night" but that pretty much means the same thing.

[pianonut]

thanks!  btw, theirry, i am not a dude.  but that's ok. you won't offend me because i follow the crowd around like the last bicycle in the tour de france.  (why aren't there any women?  what is this?)  ok.  i may not have much repertoire compared to these guys, and my french is atrocious, but this is how mayla, bob, and i work.  late at night, we sit at the computer (speaking for myself) and catch up.  i've found the classical station on tv to be most helpful, too.  they put on the music, tell you the title, and then put little blip facts about the composer or performer.  these are all stored in mayla, bob's and pianonuts heads and come out in mixed conversation during the day (having been dreamed about).

[pianote]

Bellafronte's segmenti is very obscure but very interesting.

[Skeptopotamus]

bellafronte?  that sounds just like bellafonte, the name of the boat from Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou.  I think Gwyneth Paltrow was hot in the Royal Tenenbaums with that makeup like that.

[Skeptopotamus]

Rautavaara Preludes Op. 7

[thierry13]

thanks!  btw, theirry, i am not a dude.  but that's ok. you won't offend me because i follow the crowd around like the last bicycle in the tour de france.

By dude, I was speaking of Gaspard  A nocturne dude, Gaspard is a nocturne guy.

Gaspard de la Nuit roughly translates to "Devil of the night."

Not at all. Gaspard = a first name, wich can not be translated into anything else. And "de la nuit" means of the night, so on that part you were right. So, "Gaspard of the night". It can't be anything other than that, except if there is a story that Gaspard is THE devil 

[dlu]

By dude, I was speaking of Gaspard  A nocturne dude, Gaspard is a nocturne guy.
Not at all. Gaspard = a first name, wich can not be translated into anything else. And "de la nuit" means of the night, so on that part you were right. So, "Gaspard of the night". It can't be anything other than that, except if there is a story that Gaspard is THE devil 

I've seen Gaspard de la Nuit translated as "Artful Dodger of the Night"...although this is, of course, not a literal translation...

DLu

[tater_tot]

A recording that might be worth your while is Guy Livingston's "Don't Panic! 60 Seconds for Piano." Livingston comissioned 60 composers to each write a piece that was 1 minute or less in length. My personal favorite would be Bolcom's "A 60-second Ballet for Chickens." Just a suggestion.

[fred smalls]

I've got one.

Messiaen: Prelude No.8 - Un reflet dans le vent - 5:45 (approx)

You have to learn it.  I am going to in a year, when I'm good enough....

Best piece ever!

Peace
Fred Smalls

[Skeptopotamus]

I just gave it a listen and i'd probably learn Canteyodjaya or Amen for the Stars, for the Ringed Planet over that.  sowwie.  I'm combing through the Catalogue right now.

[pita bread]

Wasn't Amen for the Stars originally a 2 piano work?

[thierry13]

He has four hands 

[Skeptopotamus]

crap Visions de l'Amen is a four-handed piece!  damn i didn't know that =(

[thierry13]

crap Visions de l'Amen is a four-handed piece!  *** i didn't know that =(

No I was kidding ! He said it was for 2 pianos, so i said no prob, he has 4 hands  (kidding)

[Skeptopotamus]

no it is a piece for 4 hands.  i didnt know -.-  I couldnt tell from listening.

[Bouter Boogie]

Suggestion Diabolique - Prokofiev
A La Albéniz - Shchedrin

I'll come up with some more later