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The Hidden Piano Treasure of Jean Sibelius

Strangely enough, it would be quite easy to attend piano recitals for years and never hear a note of Sibelius. Now Norwegian pianist Leif-Ove Andsnes makes an adventurous raid into Sibelius’ native Finland and want us to change that. It is not surprising that his playing is immaculately detailed and sympathetic Read more >>

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Author Topic: Rachmaninov Prelude Op. 23 No. 5  (Read 1388 times)
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« on: August 06, 2005, 02:41:55 AM »

Been learning this piece for donkey's now.  I can play the tunes and even memorize some bits but I can never play it like I hear others play it.  Some bits I can play fast but there are various trouble spots.  Major fingering problem perhaps since I can't play the left hand of the second theme.

(the highlighted bits in the picture)



Some advice would be muchly appreciated.

Or perhaps this piece is out of my reach *pout* I'm a grade 2 ex-piano student who's been playing without a teacher.  I practice loads but only songs.  Never tried playing the likes of Hanon and other dry-ish stuff.  Perhaps I should...

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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2005, 03:59:40 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2005, 06:18:33 AM »

 He he, one of my favorite pieces again... I am "re-learning" it, after a long time without playing it. Fingerings for the Preludes are hard to find.
Fortunately, I found my only edition with fingerings (out of 3) which is of great help, a very good fingering.

Here it goes: (Try to imagine the position of the notes on the sheet, I will try to give you a view of the piece, I hope it helps Grin)
* Opening Octave                                                                       1
                     2                                      2                              2      2
                 1     1                                1    1                        3            3
             2             2                         2         2                   5                  1
          4                   4                   4               4                                     
       1                         1            1                     1          1                         2 
    2                                2     2                          2     2                              4
1*                                      5                                 5                                     5
5
Ped ------------------------------------------------* Ped -----------------------------*
     
                                         "D major "                           "C minor"
Study this as Chopin's Revolutionary Etude, very carefully, though not as fast (way slower). If you play it clearly, you can realise that this left hand passage is a melody itself. Try to imagine this part as if it was being played by an orchestra, as a symphony (basing it on Rachmaninoff's style of orchestration). The low arpeggios being played mainly by two harps, whilst the right hand part is being played by strings, and the inner notes by wind instruments (Oboe, or something of kind). This is a great lyrical section, once you master it, it will come out easily, at any time.

Mario Barbosa  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2005, 09:57:40 AM »

Thank you muchly Mario and Mayla.  I will try the fingering once I get offline.  Thanks again for being very helpful.  I can't wait to play this beautiful piece.  Pity the hardest part happens to be the most beautiful.  I do like the first theme too, that attracted me to the piece first. 
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