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Rachmaninoff: Prelude Op. 23 No. 5 in G Minor

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Sergey Rachmaninoff - Preludes :
Prelude, Op. 23 No. 5
Prelude Op. 23 No. 5  in G Minor by Rachmaninoff piano sheet music
Key: G Minor Year: 1901
Level: 8+ Period: Late Romantic
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xx Rachmaninov - Prélude op 23 # 5
April 04, 2012, 12:14:16 AM by frankiisko

Hi to everyone! Today I'd like to share with you my performance of this hard piece.

I have worked this piece for 4 months and I love it. The last part is magic: it has a force and an overflowing passion, and it has too a very melancholy part where the musical expressivity is a very important element.

Well, without delay here you have my performance of this piece from the musical genius Sergei Rachmaninov.




xx Suggestion Diabolique
June 04, 2011, 09:37:16 AM by joachim.hanna

How hard is it to play Prokofiev's "Suggestion Diabolique"? Is it much harder than Rachmaninov's Prélude Op. 23 Nr. 5 or Rachmaninov's Prélude Op. 3 Nr.2 ?

Thx.


xx Question about Rachmaninoff's Prelude in g minor 23/5
April 09, 2011, 04:30:50 PM by kentar

In the poco meno messo section the melody is in the right hand while the left hand plays dreamy arpeggios.
My question is this:
While the right hand has the melody, they also have some notes longer of value in than the melody does. Should I stay honest and hold these notes while playing the melody..? or should I let the pedal take care of it? Thanks! Cheesy


xx Rachmaninoff prelude - continue op. 23 #5 or try C# minor?
February 19, 2011, 11:44:33 AM by cardamome

Hello,
I'm new to this forum and not a native English speaker, so I'll have to ask for some understanding!

I've been trying to learn Rachmaninoff prelude op. 23 #5  for several weeks, and my piano teacher told me that I could do it, but only by working several hours a day (which I don't have). I absolutely love this piece, though.
She suggested switching to C# minor instead. There's an audition in the end of june and she thinks I can do the latter, but that the former is too risky.

My problem is that I listened to several interpretations on YouTube, and  both pieces need speed. Is C# minor really easier ? Or is it easier only if you play it slowly -- which I honestly don't feel like doing?

Thanks for your help! I'm a bit discouraged here :-)


xx Rachmaninoff Prelude!!
January 04, 2011, 10:04:04 PM by swenghk

Would Rachmaninoff's Prelude in G Minor be considered a 20th century piece? It as composed in 1901.


xx Sergei Rachmaninoff - Prelude in g minor (Video)
November 07, 2010, 01:46:13 AM by ponken

I am aware that this is not perfect but I would appreciate others' opinions on it and tips if necessary. The audio quality is not the best so whether I play forte or piano it all sounds the same when recorded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO9LUcPtSS0


xx Which pieces should I choose?Liszt, Rach, Chopin or Debusyy?
October 29, 2010, 07:33:10 PM by keyb0ardfweak

Hi!

It's my first year in the conservatory and I wanted to ask all of you what you would recommend me to do.

Btw, I am in the 7th year of 10

I ask opinions here. The only problem is if I am doing correctly or not.
Because my teacher believes I can and she demands me to play this on december and on may...

Anyways, the pieces I would like to choose are:

- Liszt - "Ballade no.1" (This one has to be in May) or "Un suspiro etude"
- Rachmaninoff - "Prelude Op.3 no.2" or "Prelude Op.23 no.5"
- Scarlatti - "K.141" or "K.87"
- Chopin - "Scherzo Op.20" or "Etude Op.10 no.8"
- Debussy - One of the "Images" book, AND, I was thinking of "L'isle joyeuse"


On december I have to play Bach's Prelude and fugue 2 (WTC 1), Chopin's etude op.10 no.6 and Scarlatti's Sonata "K.141"..I would like to play something more challenging..

Now..I have a BIG problem

Personally, she tells me, and some other friends that I can play all of that stuff!!
But..I don't feel like I can!!=S


I am 19 years old and I've been playing since 11-12

I would like you to help me on how to memorize all of this o.O

It seems hard for me


xx 2 hardest song that I can play, comment please!! (15years old)
July 03, 2009, 08:04:47 AM by buhdaporn

Soneone said that I post in the wrong room so I post here.
Hi, my name is Put. I'm 15 years old.
This is the third board that I posted so I still new to this website.
I played 2 difficult pieces for everyone because I realize that everyone like to listen to very hard music. I want every one to comment (can be positive or negative- I'm ok with negative because I want to improve myself)

1.Chopin Fantasia Impromptu Op.66 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMdieNDH2QM&feature=channel_page
2.Rachmaninoff Prelude Op. 23 No. 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcA16ZBamQ8&feature=channel_page



xx Help on Rachmaninoff's op 23 no 5 please. Fingering
June 24, 2009, 11:03:00 PM by karys

Hello everyone, my first post here and I'd like some help on a few passages in Rachmaninoff's op 23 no 5. I uploaded the three parts I need help on. I'm not sure what fingers to use for the right hand, any advice? (you can see I tried fingering them for the first part, but am scared to learn with wrong fingers and make it a bad habit).

Thank you in advance!


xx Rach prelude in G min Op. 23, No. 5...help?
May 06, 2009, 10:19:28 PM by mc_shas

Hey,

I can play quite a bit of this piece and although I'm quite out of practice at the mo, I'm sure I could tidy some it up. However I've never quite been able to bust the second page. By that I mean the section where you first get block chords in both hands and t turns to Eb major and then modulates back to G min reaching that climax on the dominant. Anyway Those 6 bars have always been a problem for me. I've been learning the piece on and off for a long time but never worked right through it. My hands almost just don't feel strong enough and well I suppose it's a kind of hand bouncing technique (lol). Any advice on how to master this? 


xx Rachmaninov - Prelude Op.23 No.5 in G minor
January 06, 2009, 01:00:52 AM by tompilk

Ok, I promised a few years ago, somewhere on this board, that I'd post a rec of me playing this prelude after I'd improved it.
The original thread is here:
http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,12021.0.html
That recording has to be heard to believe how atrociously bad taste it is. I really do hate how I played it - I forbid anyone to play as badly as that! Sorabji had some sense in banning public performances!

So here's my new rec, seeing as I've had a nice xmas break to (re-?)learn it:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NOCVN2Jlamk

I'm going to try to record it again with better audio but it'll probably be a few months 'till I'm back at home (just started uni last term).
Thanks,
Tom


xx 2 preludes by Rachmaninoff
August 23, 2008, 08:27:17 PM by fredericfrancoischopin

any tips for prelude op.23 no.2(maestoso) and prelude op.23 no.5(alla marcia)?

btw -i am currently learning them. Smiley
 
thnx in forward Smiley Smiley




xx rachmoninovs prelude in g moll (op23 no5) ADVISE
April 15, 2008, 01:47:54 AM by sco737

im having trouble with the chord section with all the jumping just before the octave scale decending my hands sometimes hur, other then wrist stacatto any things that might help with this and overall advise foor this piece THANKS


question Rach Prelude Op.23 No.5 tension, hand hurts
February 29, 2008, 04:53:20 PM by rchmnnffbelle

I've been having problem with my hand/wrist hurting when I play, mostly with my right hand, but some with my left. It happens in measures 17-20 and 72-79. I try to relax but it's kind of hard with it having a lot of fast chords. My teacher wants me to bring it up to speed but that just makes it worse. I've talked to several people about it and they just say to find some place to relax even if it is just for a split second. The problem is, I can't find a place to relax, by time I get to the ending I can barely finish it because of tension, I don't know how to get rid of it, I've tried. I don't push myself when my hand hurts because I don't want to damage my hand. I also have a competition coming up within a month. Does anyone, even if you haven't played the song have any advice about what I should do to relax? Huh   Undecided


xx Rach Prelude Op. 23 No. 5 Fingering
December 30, 2007, 02:20:35 PM by sissco

Hi there! Long time no post. Can somebody help me with the fingering on page 2 of this prelude? I am talking about the right hand in the measures 17 to 20. Can I play this like 1,3,5-5-1,5-5 (measure 18) or legato like 1,3,4-5-1,4-5?

Thanks


xx is this piece enough??
December 29, 2007, 08:15:31 PM by _chops

Im going to search for music collage in stockholm, and i schould have three pieces; one classical, one romantic and one modern.
   I think of playing:
   - kabalevsky sonate n. 3 op. 46 (the first allegro movement)
   - rachmaninov prelude g minor op. 23(?)
   - beethoven sonate third movement on the moonlight or pastoral

but i wonder if the prelude is ok? or should i choose a larger piece?

thanx!


xx Prelude Op.23 No.5 -- Rachmaninoff
December 02, 2007, 02:20:52 AM by escort

A long while back I posted a horrendous recording of this up here...
Anyway, for kicks, I thought I'd bring it back, and with some different interpretations suggested to me by my current instructor, as well as access to a better mic/piano, I've made this recording.  It still has MUCH room for improvement, but that's another of reasons I'm posting it here:  Your comments/criticisms are always welcome (also, my apologies for posting two different versions of a piece that's only been posted about 8 thousand times on this site). 

~Brett


xx Rach's Prelude in g minor
August 24, 2007, 08:04:16 PM by lagin

Okay, so here's the deal.  I posted a recording of Rach's g - prelude 5 weeks ago, and promised everyone that I would post it again when I was done working on it.  A month after I posted it I did my exam and played it.  It went pretty well, though it never was 100% under my fingers.  Then I took a week off from piano almost entirely, and am just now posting the finished product.  HOWEVER, since I took that week off, I'm all rusty again.  So I was debating, do I put up an okay performance of it from a week or two before my exam, or do I put up a rusty performance of it after my exam (which i just recorded ).  I decided to put up the "after" one because a couple days before my exam my teacher changed a bunch of stuff, so I feel like the rusty one is more true to the interpretation we were aiming for even if it's a bit slower and the notes lack accuracy a bit more than before.

 Part 1.  http://s131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/laginn/?action=view&current=MVI_0137.flv
 Part 2. (I accidentally deleted the second half and had to go back and refilm it so I noticed that it's a tad bit faster (maybe one or two clicks on the metronome) than tempo 1 in the first file.  Sorry about that!  I don't feel like refilming it again, though, and this tempo IS closer to the original, so I could just refilm the first part faster, but it would take a very long time to upload, so I'm just going to leave it.  I hope you guys don't mind!  http://s131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/laginn/?action=view&current=MVI_0127.flv

P.S. if you leave a comment that you want me, personally, to read, please pm me and let me know because I'm afraid I'm going to be rather busy over this next week and then I'm off to university, so I might not see it.  But if you pm me, it will show up in my emails and I'll know to look here.  Thanks guys! 

P.P.S.  I'm thinking of keeping this piece at university and continuing to work on it because even though my exam is over, I feel like I could still really improve my accuracy - though it did go much better in the exam than in these 'rusty' videos. 





xx Rachmaninoff's Prelude op. 23 no. 5, yes, in g minor
July 18, 2007, 11:33:59 PM by lagin

Okay, well I'm pretty annoyed that some the the dramatic dynamics I put into this come out as ALL MF!!! on the lovely old school recording device I have.  However, if you'ld like to have a listen regardless and have any suggestions other than hit the right notes (I have a few pretty obvious blunders), that would be great.  And I have some questions:

1.  Do you think it needs to go faster than this?  I know there are some wickedly fast recordings out there, but is this an appropriate tempo? 

2.  On a scale of 1 - 10, from what you can make out despite the lack of dynamic contrast due to the camera, (1 being, oh my...you probably shouldn't even be looking at this piece let alone playing it, and 10 being, you could totally pull that off in an exam setting), where do you think I am sitting at the moment? 
http://s131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/laginn/?action=view&current=5bb0a41a.flv

Out of all my repertoire this piece is putting up the most of a fight.  Also, it's only the first section and the middle section.  The last part is technically/musically where the first part is so I'm not going to bother making a separate recording and loading it up since my camera only takes 3 minute recordings. 

And just for the record, this IS a work in progress.  I have another month before it needs to be finished.




xx Rachmaninoff Prelude in G Minor Op.23 No. 5
June 03, 2007, 05:19:06 PM by silyaznfoo

I'm currently working on this piece, and there are a few places I have trouble. The first one is in the top voice in measures 18 & 19, I have a handspan of one octave and it is difficult to play the correct notes clearly and quickly. The next part is in bringing out the middle voice from measures 42-47. And finally, the jumps in the coda starting from measure 72, because by that time my hands are fairly fatigued. Does anybody have any tips on any of these three parts? Any help is appreciated.


xx Rachmaninoff Prelude in G minor Op. 23 No. 5
May 28, 2007, 05:02:30 AM by faj

Another recording of Rachmaninoff prelude in G minor  Grin
Any comment/ criticism/ advice are most welcome

Best Regards,
Faj


xx Rachmaninoff prelude 23 nr 5
April 15, 2007, 07:05:04 PM by korsol

Hi. I've played the piano for almost 7   years, should I be able to learn this piece ?   
I don't have any teachers and have used a long time practise on this piece, have just learned one page and it sounds crappy. Is it stupit of me to practice on this piece if it is very dificult?


xx Rachmaninov Prelude Op. 23 No. 5
February 10, 2007, 09:52:17 PM by escort

Hello

I know you've all heard this piece a million times and probably won't be interested in hearing it again, but I'm playing it for a small competition in early March and I wanted some opinions on it. 
 
There are some missed notes, so I apologize for that.  Also, my piano is a bit out of tune.  I hope you enjoy

Brett


question Rach Prelude in G minor Op. 23
January 11, 2007, 07:53:57 AM by rach3pianoconcerto

hey i am in the process of learning rachmaninoffs second most popular prelude in Gminor opus 23. I am wondering if it is wise to play hands separate first to get to know the notes and where the piece is going before going hands together. I can go super super slow hands together and even doing that i am making plenty of mistakes. I am just wondering how i would approach this piece in a wise way as to not stall the learning process. What is the best way to practice this piece. I just feel like i am not getting anywhere.
Thank you very much

Regards.

-----Mike Grin


xx Rachmaninov Op. 23 no. 5 - Spanish influence?
December 05, 2006, 06:32:28 AM by cygnusdei

Do you think the middle section was inspired/a hommage to spanish music, particularly the Malagueña? I've always thought there was something familiar - the harmonic progression is certainly similar.

Now when I say Malagueña, I meant the song by Ernesto Lecuona. Apparently he also wrote an arrangement for piano, which I think is part of the Andalucia "Suite Español".

There is a youtube video of pianist David Smith playing his own arrangement (I think):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zLuPi_rknfk
It says Albeniz on the screen title, but that is not correct. I can't quite figure out what he was saying in the video.


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