You've probably seen this in posts already, but there is an excellent book by Larry Fine called the Piano Book, where he describes all the manufactuers, models, and gives some basic information about discounts. It varies by brand, and by the specific market at the time. For instance, here in Portland last January, if you wanted a Bosendorfer of any kind you could have made a killing - I think the local dealer got a line on several with massive discounts, and was able to sell some for 60 -70% off *list*. That's not alwayw the case, though, and it's a matter of really shopping and getting to know your dealers the best you can. At one point you will just sort of *know* what a reasonable asking price will be on a piano, then you can get a good deal. But it takes research. The book gives a good start!