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Offline stevie

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who says modern music sucks?! CHECK THIS OUT!
on: August 11, 2005, 10:10:27 PM
https://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=044XIQ157Q78H34S6JCXH42FNO

 8) Fazil Say's paganini variations.

enjoy!

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Reply #1 on: August 11, 2005, 11:19:55 PM
Great stuff! Great formal thinking and real groovy moments.
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Reply #2 on: August 11, 2005, 11:57:18 PM
this and the sciarrino sonata#2 along with some of hamelin's compositions are the best contemporary works i've heard.

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Reply #3 on: August 12, 2005, 12:07:42 AM
That is awesome!!   :D
"The trouble with music appreciation in general is that people are taught to have too much respect for music they should be taught to love it instead." -  Stravinsky

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Reply #4 on: August 12, 2005, 12:55:02 AM
Great stuff! I am not sure if I would call it "Modern" or "Contemprary", though. Sounds to me that it would qualify as regular Jazz.

If you like the amalgamation of Jazz and Classic, check out Claude Bolling or Aydin Esen (not to mention Keith Jarrett).

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Reply #5 on: August 12, 2005, 01:32:24 AM
yes it is very jazz influenced, but fazil is classified as a 'modern classical' composer.

and i havent heard any jazz quite like this...i think its really awesome

https://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2X71GJKE5ZVTW0Y29LVWEH8126

check this out too, a movement from one of his piano concertos


all played by himself of course..

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Reply #6 on: August 12, 2005, 03:25:58 AM
THe first song is actually from
Andrew Lloyd Weber's Variation 1-4, but changed into piano, i know because it is my examination song for cello

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Reply #7 on: August 12, 2005, 05:56:59 AM
THe first song is actually from
Andrew Lloyd Weber's Variation 1-4, but changed into piano, i know because it is my examination song for cello

I hope your cella has a nice voice  ::)

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Reply #8 on: August 12, 2005, 12:55:23 PM
Does everyone compose a pag variation piece?

pretty cool stuff.

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Reply #9 on: August 12, 2005, 02:29:50 PM
The thing about modern music that I don't like is that it has jazz influences. And I HATE Jazz, I don't think of it as music (Don't flame me, it is an opinion) I can't even listen to Debussy because of his jazzyness.

Sorabji is one of the modern composers that I actually like.
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Reply #10 on: August 12, 2005, 02:48:27 PM
The thing about modern music that I don't like is that it has jazz influences. And I HATE Jazz, I don't think of it as music (Don't flame me, it is an opinion) I can't even listen to Debussy because of his jazzyness.

Sorabji is one of the modern composers that I actually like.

I can perfectly accept that you don`t like jazz. But you don`t even think that it is music? Ehat is your definition of music.? Every answer is good enough to me as long as it has some logic in it.

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Reply #11 on: August 12, 2005, 02:56:41 PM
Of course it is music. But I don't think of it as music, all I hear are these awful melodies, 15 min solos and instruments like Sax that makes me want to slit my own wrist. Everything sounds the same to my ears. Some one might find car traffic to be music, I have no right to say they are wrong but to my ears...
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Reply #12 on: August 12, 2005, 03:02:53 PM
Of course it is music. But I don't think of it as music, all I hear are these awful melodies, 15 min solos and instruments like Sax that makes me want to slit my own wrist. Everything sounds the same to my ears. Some one might find car traffic to be music, I have no right to say they are wrong but to my ears...

 ::)

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Reply #13 on: August 12, 2005, 03:37:02 PM
Of course it is music. But I don't think of it as music, all I hear are these awful melodies, 15 min solos and instruments like Sax that makes me want to slit my own wrist. Everything sounds the same to my ears. Some one might find car traffic to be music, I have no right to say they are wrong but to my ears...

You mean "a jazz band is what you get if you push a blues band down the stairs" ? :)

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Reply #14 on: August 12, 2005, 03:42:44 PM
I hate free form jazz. big band and smooth jazz is what I prefer.

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Reply #15 on: August 12, 2005, 05:29:53 PM
I really like it :D Love the vars, and this an interesting twist
(Brahms' still no.1 ;D)

the second.. to modern for my tastes, but interesting still

anyway, thnx for sharing
Music, even in situations of the greatest horror, should never be painful to the ear but should flatter and charm it, and thereby always remain music."
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Reply #16 on: August 12, 2005, 05:38:10 PM
Cool! Very interesting. Really jazzy, but not totally.
It all happens on Discworld, where greed and ignorance influence human behavior... and perfectly ordinary people occasionally act like raving idiots.

A world, in short, totally unlike our own.

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Reply #17 on: August 12, 2005, 05:47:19 PM
You mean "a jazz band is what you get if you push a blues band down the stairs" ? :)

Hahahaha More or less
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Reply #18 on: August 12, 2005, 06:02:15 PM
what? how can you say you hate jazz, but like sorabji?

... - dumbfounded -

oh well to each his own.

very nice piano concerto... bit out there from what i'm used to... but quite catchy! :D

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Reply #19 on: August 12, 2005, 07:11:02 PM
what? how can you say you hate jazz, but like sorabji?

... - dumbfounded -

oh well to each his own.

very nice piano concerto... bit out there from what i'm used to... but quite catchy! :D

He makes it sound good?
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Reply #20 on: August 13, 2005, 03:54:48 AM
https://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=044XIQ157Q78H34S6JCXH42FNO

 8) Fazil Say's paganini variations.

enjoy!

I never said I didn't like any music coming from the 20th Century... Just not that serialistic and impressionistic stuff... Stuff that lacks a sense of tonality.

However I do love Jazz and I certainly loved the Paganini Variations - Good find.

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Reply #21 on: August 13, 2005, 10:19:29 PM
Jazz is always improvised, period.
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Reply #22 on: August 14, 2005, 12:22:41 AM
Jazz is always improvised, period.

I dunno if I'd agree with that.... What about big band jazz? If they were all improvising, I'm sure it would sound more like Xennakis rather than jazz.

Side note... Has anyone ever heard about origins of the name "jazz".  I saw this documentary on the history of jazz and apparantly it used to be called "jass".  They made the switch because apparantly the J would get rubbed off/fall of and the drummer would be left with the words "Ass Band" written on his bass drum.  Thus... Jazz.

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Reply #23 on: August 14, 2005, 12:31:03 AM
I mean the point of the music is improvisation. I don't mean every note is improvised.

I never understand what people mean when they say that some composed piece of classical music sounds like jazz. Jazz isn't a sound. It is a style, a way to play.

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Reply #24 on: August 14, 2005, 12:59:28 AM
jazz is a broad style, and is generally associated with improvisation..

tell me, how would you describe nikolai kapustin's piano works?

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Reply #25 on: August 14, 2005, 01:10:26 AM
I mean the point of the music is improvisation. I don't mean every note is improvised.

I never understand what people mean when they say that some composed piece of classical music sounds like jazz. Jazz isn't a sound. It is a style, a way to play.

I don't even understand how you can't understand this. It is a style a way to play ... exactly ! They play in the style of the jazz, the way they play it is jazzy. It sounds really like jazz music.

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Reply #26 on: August 14, 2005, 03:44:01 AM
Side note... Has anyone ever heard about origins of the name "jazz".  I saw this documentary on the history of jazz and apparantly it used to be called "jass".  They made the switch because apparantly the J would get rubbed off/fall of and the drummer would be left with the words "Ass Band" written on his bass drum.  Thus... Jazz.

They must have been pulling your leg ;D

Check out https://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-jaz1.htm

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Reply #27 on: August 14, 2005, 03:55:08 AM
Neat stuff. The concerto sounds a bit like Prokofiev on speed (to use a Hamelin like comment).  ;)
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Reply #28 on: August 15, 2005, 10:10:42 PM
I mean the point of the music is improvisation. I don't mean every note is improvised.

I never understand what people mean when they say that some composed piece of classical music sounds like jazz. Jazz isn't a sound. It is a style, a way to play.

Improvisation is creating music on the spot. Composing is improvisation, sometimes edited. So Kapustin's Toccatina for example is as much jazz as any big band arrangement of Four Brothers.
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Reply #29 on: August 17, 2005, 08:32:28 AM
Neat stuff. The concerto sounds a bit like Prokofiev on speed (to use a Hamelin like comment).  ;)

Much more like Bartók.

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Reply #30 on: August 19, 2005, 06:00:31 PM
Ok you all are idiots! This thing sucks!

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Reply #31 on: August 19, 2005, 06:02:27 PM











































Just kidding- trying to stir up a little bit of good 'ol fashioned conrtoversy!
BTW this is pretty good- although I tend to like modern music of most varieties.

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Reply #32 on: August 19, 2005, 06:04:09 PM
I never said I didn't like any music coming from the 20th Century... Just not that serialistic and impressionistic stuff... Stuff that lacks a sense of tonality.

I guess maybe one day you'll grow up. Good Luck!
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