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Offline thierry13

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #50 on: September 02, 2005, 11:58:12 PM
I don´t think Berezovsky has even nearly the touch Richter had.
Both are too different...

Richter doesn't even come close to berezovsky. Richter was a pretty ordinary pianist musically.

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #51 on: September 03, 2005, 01:54:19 AM
dear piazzo,

ok.  was arrau argentinian or something?  i forget now.  it's terrible. 
cortot was wasn't a HeAVY player was he?  my french prof.  had taken lessons from him.  and, because of his manner of playing, i sort of assumed that cortot had a similar technique (sort of wild, yet lighter than most).  the sounds he could get from the piano probably sounded loud because of the speed, but he didn't aim for volume, i don't think.  prove me wrong.

arrau was from chile, born 1903.

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #52 on: September 03, 2005, 02:32:53 AM
dear piazzo,

ok.  was arrau argentinian or something?  i forget now.  it's terrible. 
cortot was wasn't a HeAVY player was he?  my french prof.  had taken lessons from him.  and, because of his manner of playing, i sort of assumed that cortot had a similar technique (sort of wild, yet lighter than most).  the sounds he could get from the piano probably sounded loud because of the speed, but he didn't aim for volume, i don't think.  prove me wrong.

Arrau was born in Chile. You could search a little...

And Cortot had a singing legato tone, a true deep sound, even exagerating sometimes, and it was amazing.
You should listen to any of his recordings if you want to prove yourslef. I can´t do anything.

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #53 on: September 03, 2005, 02:36:38 AM
Richter doesn't even come close to berezovsky. Richter was a pretty ordinary pianist musically.

I didn´t say Richter had an extraordinary musical imagination. I was talking about the touch of both not being even comparable.

You were saying Berezovsky had a similar way of playing to that of Richter.

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #54 on: September 03, 2005, 03:10:51 AM
Richter doesn't even come close to berezovsky. Richter was a pretty ordinary pianist musically.

Such post speaks more about the poster, than Richter.

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #55 on: September 03, 2005, 03:52:25 AM
Such post speaks more about the poster, than Richter.

agreed, did you see the FF?

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #56 on: September 04, 2005, 05:09:45 AM
agreed, did you see the FF?

Yes, I did.

Thank you for posting it. It is actually very different from what I remember on Tchaikowsky Competition in 1990.

To be honest, it leaves quite ambigious feeling. Of course, I respect and admire his mastery and phenomenal facilities.

The thing which bothers me is that he actually does quite a few things one should not do in Feux Follets.

First, he plays "hard" parts slower and "easier"--faster. In fact, it is a cheating. 

Second, he does the usual trick--to start passages slow, and then accelerate at the end. That way he has enough time to rest, to "feel" and "get used" to the pattern, and then unleash at the end. This trick does not pass with professionals--immediately they see the cheating.

He plays extremely light, to the extend that written forte passages he actually plays piano. It is much easier that way, but is contrary to what Liszt wanted, and how it should be played.

His double notes are not nearly up to Richter's, Mei Ting's, or Kissin's velocity, but overall due to the above tricks, his timing is much faster.

Needless to say, as far as I remember, he did not do anything like this in 1990.

I still have to decide whether I like it or not.

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #57 on: September 04, 2005, 08:05:13 AM
Where can I buy the DVD of Berezovsky playing the Transcendental Etudes?


You can buy at   https://www3.fnac.com
There are shipment charges in France not included in price, and probably  import charges in your country too.

The video has the Bonus "The Broken String", the accident  during his performance of the Liszt-Study  N.10 (Appassionata)...Berezowisky unrolled the string peacefully with applause.

I can't imagine how he could play with so much sprinkle sweat,  over his body and keyboard,  as if it were nothing...Great nervous control and concentration.  I worry if  it could bring any damage to the Steinway keyboard.


Take careful with the compatibility with your DVD system.

{}s Pedro

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La Roque d'Anthéron
Récital pianistique lors du Festival 2002
Boris Berezovsky


https://www3.fnac.com/search/quick.do?text=berezovsky&category=-13&SID=5fc73618-ae91-fe32-10a3-762ec8c3e3a1&UID=01fa8b253-42b1-d1a7-787f-427ccc41d0a5&AID=&Origin=FnacAff&OrderInSession=1&TTL=050920050918&bl=HGACrera

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #58 on: September 04, 2005, 11:17:23 PM

You can buy at   https://www3.fnac.com
There are shipment charges in France not included in price, and probably  import charges in your country too.

The video has the Bonus "The Broken String", the accident  during his performance of the Liszt-Study  N.10 (Appassionata)...Berezowisky unrolled the string peacefully with applause.

I can't imagine how he could play with so much sprinkle sweat,  over his body and keyboard,  as if it were nothing...Great nervous control and concentration.  I worry if  it could bring any damage to the Steinway keyboard.


Take careful with the compatibility with your DVD system.

{}s Pedro

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La Roque d'Anthéron
Récital pianistique lors du Festival 2002
Boris Berezovsky


https://www3.fnac.com/search/quick.do?text=berezovsky&category=-13&SID=5fc73618-ae91-fe32-10a3-762ec8c3e3a1&UID=01fa8b253-42b1-d1a7-787f-427ccc41d0a5&AID=&Origin=FnacAff&OrderInSession=1&TTL=050920050918&bl=HGACrera



I already found it at www.DVD4music.com it cost me $36 USD total and it's a Region 0 disc which means it will play in any region.  I'm from North Carolina by the way.

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #59 on: September 05, 2005, 01:36:19 AM
enjoy the DVD its awesome!

and also youll notice on the DVD theres samples of other DVDs in the range.

i especially advise you check out libetta and lugansky, every bit as awesome as berezovsky's DVD.

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #60 on: September 05, 2005, 02:05:09 AM
You were saying Berezovsky had a similar way of playing to that of Richter.

hu?? Sorry, I'm not the one who said that. I think it's stevie (not sure), but it's not me.

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #61 on: September 05, 2005, 02:51:46 AM
hu?? Sorry, I'm not the one who said that. I think it's stevie (not sure), but it's not me.

Sorry, I meant you in plural.

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #62 on: September 05, 2005, 03:33:30 AM

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #63 on: September 05, 2005, 03:43:04 AM
oh, did you meet him?  ;D

ive heard mixed reports about him, someone said he was arrogant, and another said he was friendly.

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #64 on: September 05, 2005, 04:30:56 AM
oh, did you meet him?  ;D

ive heard mixed reports about him, someone said he was arrogant, and another said he was friendly.

He must be both, depending on his feelings  ;D

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #65 on: September 05, 2005, 06:35:17 AM
He must be both, depending on his feelings  ;D

no, he mght come across as arrogant (but actually more like bored or exahusted). He smiled  at me and asked where ive got gotten those pictures of him.  I shook his amazingly huge hands too! *wubs*

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #66 on: September 07, 2005, 03:40:15 AM
Richter doesn't even come close to berezovsky. Richter was a pretty ordinary pianist musically.

I know I should simply ignore such a stupid statement...

To poster: you don't know what you are talking about.

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #67 on: September 08, 2005, 02:39:35 AM
Ho so I'm stupid to not like Richter. So everyone who doesn't enjoy Rachmaninoff is stupid, everyone who doesn't enjoy Liszt is stupid, everyone who doesn't enjoy Chopin is stupid, everyone who doesn't enjoy Horowitz is stupid, everyone who doesn't enjoy Clitburn is stupid, every who doesn't enjoy Ashkenazy is stupid. Is this what you're saying? Then you are stupid.

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #68 on: September 08, 2005, 05:59:04 PM
Careful dude.

I have nothing against someone that would simply say: "I do not like Richter".  That is fine.  But: "Richter was a pretty ordinary pianist musically"  that is a dumb statement.  I personally don't like Ash.  Still I respect his work, he is a true musician, even if I don't usually agree with his interpretations.  You may like/unlike whoever you want, Chopin, Rach, Liszt.  Hate them all if you want, but have at least some respect for their contribution to the art.  If you can't even have that, just shut up. 

Am I stupid?   yeah... but, what would that make of you? some Brainless Moron? 

Anyhow, honestly, I don't think you are stupid, just some arrogant  brat.

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #69 on: September 08, 2005, 07:35:52 PM
now now children

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #70 on: September 09, 2005, 04:33:56 PM
TE10:
i personally think he plays some parts too fast. may be liszt, but come on there could be more passion in the playing. okay he can play it fast, but that's all i'll give him.

i don't think the beginning of the coda packs enough punch either, just some very awkward buildup that becomes rushed at the end.

just my 10 cents... of course, i ain't an international pianist.. what can i say... - sigh -

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anyone compare his Mazeppa to "da Pavement's" Mazzeppa? from the liszt comp?

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Re: Boris Berezovsky - he's HAPPENIN!
Reply #71 on: September 09, 2005, 09:46:59 PM
anyone compare his Mazeppa to "da Pavement's" Mazzeppa? from the liszt comp?
yep, da PAVEMENT edges him in RAW SPEED and HARDCORE FURY. incidentally, another legend in the liszt competition, 'da BALROG' (who also didn't make the final) gave a definitive performance of the TE10, coming in a few seconds short of berezovsky in overall time but eclipsing him significantly in RAW SPEED in the final pages. a legendary performance
 

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