help, again!

[pianistimo]

ok.  this is a different kind.  i need to find an internet site where i can listen to the whole:

concerto grosso of js bach: english suite #3
italian concerto and
brandenburg concerto #5     (preferably all the movements)

any one or all of these is helpful as i have a listening test next week.

also have to know:

js bach's concerto in f minor bwv 1056
js bach concerto in d minor bwv 1052
mozart k 271 in E-flat (bilson if possible)
mozart k 453 in G (by jando if possible)

thanks in advance!  i will remunerate you with some interesting info. i'm learning.

ps  i live an 45minutes to an hour away from wcu, so it's hard for me to go to the listening library all the time.

[Bob]

Try the midi ones.

[pianistimo]

yes!  that's a good idea.  i forgot my own suggested midi site.  does anyone remember the site?

[Siberian Husky]

www.classicalarchives.com

[BoliverAllmon]

ok.  this is a different kind.  i need to find an internet site where i can listen to the whole:

concerto grosso of js bach: english suite #3
italian concerto and
brandenburg concerto #5     (preferably all the movements)

any one or all of these is helpful as i have a listening test next week.

also have to know:

js bach's concerto in f minor bwv 1056
js bach concerto in d minor bwv 1052
mozart k 271 in E-flat (bilson if possible)
mozart k 453 in G (by jando if possible)

thanks in advance!  i will remunerate you with some interesting info. i'm learning.

ps  i live an 45minutes to an hour away from wcu, so it's hard for me to go to the listening library all the time.

I have a vid of gould playing the brandenburg. I also have the fmin and dmin. concertoes and the mozart by jando. the others can't help you with. PM about how to get it to you.

[pianistimo]

so you don't have to go through a lot of trouble, boliver, i'll just listen to the midi's.  thank you for your kindness of thoughts, though!  i just thought today - since all we have to do is identify the piece, i'll listen at the library sometime for the performers.

did you know that glen gould was good, but not the best.  my teacher said that many people who perform the 'italian concerto' play the full chords at the beginning all together at once when in actuality it sounds better when you roll them.  he played a little gould and then some alicia de larrocha.  she sounds a bit better on some pieces because she rolls the chords.  (good secret, huh!)  on the harpischord, if you roll the chord it doesn't sound like one big ugly pluck fighting for survival.  (i happen to like gould, too, though, for it's originality)

did you know mozart wrote the 'jeunomme' k 271 when he was only twenty?  it is one of the few concertos to exemplify (as many sonatas do) the idea of a fanfare (taken from the italians - imitating antiphonal church music) and lets the piano come in early instead of making them wait!  the finale is especially italian as it is sort of a buffa idea.  victoire jenamy was born in strasbourg in 1749 and married to a rich merchant.  joseph jenamy, in 1768.  victoire was the daughter of the celebrated dancer and choreographer jean georges noverre (1727-1810), who was a good friend of mozart's.  he choreographed a 1772 milan production of mozart's opera 'lucio silla.'  victoire jenamy was not a professional musician, though mozart admired her playing. 

"equally unexpected  (as the fanfare beginning) is that within the breathless final movement rondo mozart inserts a minuet section, which momentarily slows the pace.   michael lorenz (a viennese modern day musicologist specializing in the music of mozart and schubert's time) speculates that this unusual feature might have been "an allusion to noverre the dancer.")  even at such a young age (20) mozart was breaking with traditions at the same time as he sought to perpetuate them.

[pianistimo]

i think i'll break down (and yes, drive) to wcu to listen over the weekend.  midi files just don't do it for me anymore.   it reminds you of the tunes, but that's it.  most dry and boring.  but, very useful for composers to get an idea of what their music sounds like.  and, if i ever can't make it to the library - i'll use them.  i signed up for the free membership at sheetmusicarchives.

[BoliverAllmon]

i thought sheetmusicarchives was always free.