the most INSANE ALL-OUT FURY program possible?

[stevie]

3 things -

1 - what would be the most insane program to play, no slow pieces, all exhausting FURY pieces

2 - what is the most insane program a pinaist has ever played, in terms of pure fast-fury pieces?

3 - whats the big deal, why cant we play programs like this?!


id LOVE to witness a concert like this

[mwarner1]

Well, I recently saw Hamelin at Ravinia, and this was the program:

First half:

Vladigerov: Sonatina Concertante, Op. 28
Chopin/Godowsky: 9 etudes!

Second half:

Wagner/Liszt: Isolde's "Liebestod" from Tristan und Isolde
Verdi/Liszt: Concert Paraphrase on Themes from Ernani
Bellini/Liszt: Rèminiscences de Norma

This was the most relentlessly furious program I have ever seen.

[stevie]

the most relentless that ive heard (and seen) is my berezovsky DVD of the complete liszt trancendental etudes.

he plays the whole thing in under 55 minutes, a stunning achievment technically and musically.

[chromatickler]

francesco LIBETTA

COMPLETE chopin-godowsky

end of dizcuzzion

[Souza]

Stevie

You forgot the bronken string bonus!

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[brahmsian]

Alkan-Symphony for Solo Piano
Alkan-Etude Op.39 No.3 (Scherzo Diabolico)
Alkan-Etude Op.35 No.4
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Rachmaninoff- Prelude Op. 23 No.2
Rachmaninoff- Prelude Op. 32 No.1
Scriabin- Sonata No. 7 (White Mass)
Prokofiev- Suggestion Diabolique
Prokofiev- Toccata

[pita bread]

Suicide recitals for suicidal pianists, or supervirtuosi

The 20th Century Recital

Stravinsky - Petrushka
Kapustin - 5 Etudes in Different Intervals
Bartok - Sonata
Villa-Lobos - Rudepoema

The Romantic Recital

Liszt - Mephisto Waltz
Liszt - Feux Follets
Liszt - Mazeppa
Liszt - Chasse-Neige
Brahms - Paganini Variations
Godowsky - Passacaglia
Liszt - Totentanz

I don't see why someone who wants to, and is able to do a program like this shouldn't. The audience wouldn't be bored, they'd be on an hour long or so adrenaline rush.

[practicingnow]

OK - let's get tasteless:

All-Transcriptions Program:
Wagner-Liszt - Prelude to Act lll from Lohengrin
Cziffra - Flight of the BumbleBee
Sousa - Horowitz - Stars and Stripes
Tchaikovsky-Feinberg - Scherzo from Symphony no.6
Strauss-Cziffra - Trisch-Trasch Polka
Mozart-Volodos - Turkish March
Wagner-Brassin - Ride of the Valkyries

- This program is specially designed to have absolutely no repose, and to be played forte at all times
- This program, by definition, must purposely omit pieces which have extended quiet passages, i.e. The Mephisto Waltz, the Tannhauser Overture, etc.
- Of course this program gets played without any intermission...

[perfect_pitch]

OK - let's get tasteless:

All-Transcriptions Program:
Wagner-Liszt - Prelude to Act lll from Lohengrin
Cziffra - Flight of the BumbleBee
Sousa - Horowitz - Stars and Stripes
Tchaikovsky-Feinberg - Scherzo from Symphony no.6
Strauss-Cziffra - Trisch-Trasch Polka
Mozart-Volodos - Turkish March
Wagner-Brassin - Ride of the Valkyries

- This program is specially designed to have absolutely no repose, and to be played forte at all times
- This program, by definition, must purposely omit pieces which have extended quiet passages, i.e. The Mephisto Waltz, the Tannhauser Overture, etc.
- Of course this program gets played without any intermission...

I pity the poor fu**er....   

[cherub_rocker1979]

the most relentless that ive heard (and seen) is my berezovsky DVD of the complete liszt trancendental etudes.

he plays the whole thing in under 55 minutes, a stunning achievment technically and musically.

Where can I purchase this DVD?

[stevie]

Where can I purchase this DVD?

google it, it depends where youre from.

the range of DVDs this is part of are made in france, and they might not be compatible with american DVD players(although they should work on any computer with DVD)

[brewtality]

Anton Rubinstein once played 6 Beethoven sonatas in recital, I can't remember which ones of the top of my head but they weren't the mini ones. He backed it up two nights later with a true pregnant cat schumann recital. From what I have read about Rubinstein's temperament, it must have been insanely furious. 

[chromatickler]

The Romantic Recital

Liszt - Mephisto Waltz
Liszt - Feux Follets
Liszt - Mazeppa
Liszt - Chasse-Neige
Brahms - Paganini Variations
Godowsky - Passacaglia
Liszt - Totentanz

I don't see why someone who wants to, and is able to do a program like this shouldn't. The audience wouldn't be bored, they'd be on an hour long or so adrenaline rush.

more like 90 mins

[brewtality]

more like 90 mins

Have faith my child. In Rudy we trust

[JCarey]

I think an all-Ornstein program would fit the description of "the most INSANE ALL-OUT FURY program possible".

[stevie]

I think an all-Ornstein program would fit the description of "the most INSANE ALL-OUT FURY program possible".

very true, although many of his pieces are soft and intimate.

also - suicide on an airplane would go down well in a weeks time.

[JCarey]

very true, although many of his pieces are soft and intimate.

True. "A Morning in the Woods", for instance, is a beautiful piece.

[donjuan]

Suicide recitals for suicidal pianists, or supervirtuosi

The 20th Century Recital

Stravinsky - Petrushka
Kapustin - 5 Etudes in Different Intervals
Bartok - Sonata
Villa-Lobos - Rudepoema

The Romantic Recital

Liszt - Mephisto Waltz
Liszt - Feux Follets
Liszt - Mazeppa
Liszt - Chasse-Neige
Brahms - Paganini Variations
Godowsky - Passacaglia
Liszt - Totentanz

I don't see why someone who wants to, and is able to do a program like this shouldn't. The audience wouldn't be bored, they'd be on an hour long or so adrenaline rush.

ummmmm

I think such a program would be exhausting on the audience and after a while, it will all sound the same to them because you have been flogging them to death with really heavy stuff for an hour.  For example, to appreciate the shaking thunder of Totentanz, the audience should get a breather (something light) beforehand.  Every sound should be compared to the sound of silence, rather than the previous loud, audacious sound

[stevie]

ummm, youre missing the point of this thread

are you aware that heavy metal band concerts are very popular, their songs are alomst all aggressive, not the music contrast, but the quality of the music sustains the interest, and the overall impression after a couple hours of hardcore aggression is stunning.

all im saying is that there should be piano concerts like that.

[donjuan]

ummm, youre missing the point of this thread

are you aware that heavy metal band concerts are very popular, their songs are alomst all aggressive, not the music contrast, but the quality of the music sustains the interest, and the overall impression after a couple hours of hardcore aggression is stunning.

all im saying is that there should be piano concerts like that.

true, they are popular... and yes, I have actually been to one of these concerts (friends talked me into it) and I have to say that the music is only a very small part of the experience.  There is a lot of noise in terms of clothing and shiny things on stage as well as spotlights etc.... that people come for.  Not to mention the *drugs*

plus most the people who go to these things have hearing damage from turning it up on their headphones at home, on the bus, at school, everywhere (its like an oxygen tank, thats what it is)
lets just say...... I dont think heavy metal can ever compare to the classics, in terms of the music or the concert experience.  There were a lot of complete idiots out in the rock audience that you would never want ***ing around in carnegie hall, as you are trying to listen to Brahms Paganini Variations.


just my opinion, as haughty and pretentious as you probably think it is

[ahmedito]

Pierre Laurent Aimard played in Madrid:

HammerKlavier
Debussy Octaves, sixth and chord etudes.
Ligeti etudes from book 1, all loud and fast (desordre, devils ladder, etc etc)

[stevie]

Pierre Laurent Aimard played in Madrid:

HammerKlavier
Debussy Octaves, sixth and chord etudes.
Ligeti etudes from book 1, all loud and fast (desordre, devils ladder, etc etc)

MUCH RESPECT

it would be even better if he cut the hammerklavier slow movement 

[jehangircama]

lets just say...... I dont think heavy metal can ever compare to the classics, in terms of the music or the concert experience.  There were a lot of complete idiots out in the rock audience that you would never want ***ing around in carnegie hall, as you are trying to listen to Brahms Paganini Variations.

BRAVO well said 

[stevie]

BRAVO well said 

i am perfectly capable of headbanging while perfectly silent 

[musicsdarkangel]

Alkan-Symphony for Solo Piano
Alkan-Etude Op.39 No.3 (Scherzo Diabolico)
Alkan-Etude Op.35 No.4
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Rachmaninoff- Prelude Op. 23 No.2
Rachmaninoff- Prelude Op. 32 No.1
Scriabin- Sonata No. 7 (White Mass)
Prokofiev- Suggestion Diabolique
Prokofiev- Toccata

We have a winner.

[burstroman]

An all Boulez Sonata program!!!!!!!!!

[jehangircama]

how about doubling the speed, a programme of all the liszt TEs and HRs