Any university teachers here?

[steinway43]

I ask because I am considering returning to finish my degree finally but I need to find someone who doesn't care about a person's appearance. It seems to be a problem for some people.  Details of who I studied with and so on I'll be glad to discuss with anyone who can lead me in a direction.

Thanks.

[jeremyjchilds]

I ask because I am considering returning to finish my degree finally but I need to find someone who doesn't care about a person's appearance. It seems to be a problem for some people.  Details of who I studied with and so on I'll be glad to discuss with anyone who can lead me in a direction.

Thanks.

I'm not sure I understand what the problem is...

I'm kinda ugly, and I made it through fine...

[gilad]

I'm not sure I understand what the problem is...

I'm kinda ugly, and I made it through fine...

See anything is possible. I'm taking encouragent out of this thread.

[steinway43]

Hmm...maybe I'm paranoid and lack confidence because of what happened before.

[jeremyjchilds]

Hmm...maybe I'm paranoid and lack confidence because of what happened before.

Must we ask?

[steinway43]

Must we ask?

I was treated badly by many professors at university because I look less intelligent than I am (and my tampered with-long story-SAT score didn't help). I was told my grades were being lowered because of my face, I was verbally abused, one prof refused to allow me to take his class, and in the end I was told I couldn't compete. "It doesn't matter how well you might play, you don't look good."

This is what happened to me.

At my second university, years later, things were a bit better after they got to know me, but everyone at first seems to think I'm incompetent.

[steinway43]

Some info here on how humans assess others through their face spontaneously, believing foolishly that it's experience driving them.

https://psych.princeton.edu/~psych/psychology/research/todorov/publications.php

This is what I'm up against.

[Bob]

Not that I'm aware of.  I don't think a uni prof would bother with PS.  They'd have their own busy academic stuff to deal with, plus they could just take on some students on the side if they wanted more money.  Why mess with an online forum, if they had the time?

[ted]

There are lots of them on Pianoworld, arguing and pontificating. There is one right way to do everything - their way. No one else has a right to draw musical breath. It isn't a type I'd want to see invade here.

They really judge music by somebody's appearance ? That's hard to believe. Practically all the old masters were a long way short of fashion plates aside from Liszt. They'd be left with hardly anybody's music to study.

[quantum]

Not sure how that would fly here in Canada.  Where I studied, if something like this happened and student organizations got wind of the incident, there would be some major explaining to do by such prof.  Hope such prof likes being in a dissection tray.  

[ted]

Precisely quantum. The whole notion is ridiculous, and if it did happen the professor in question ought not to be teaching. Some professors here I've met are a bit poncey, but no way would they do that.

[slane]

I wouldn't say "no way they would do that" ... but if something like that were to happen here, we have a whole government organisation, the equal opportunity commision, to deal with it and in fact, it wouldn't go that far. You'd just ring the unis equal opportunity officer and have a big whinge.

The problem is that bullies like S43 describes are good at picking their victims who are usually too nice to go find someone with a bigger stick to make them behave.

But .. the behaviour you describe is so outrageous that I think you have no need to worry about it from anyone else. Musicians and university lecturers are about the daggiest people around! I can well understand that you are having some traumatic associations though.