Recordings that you wished existed.

[ravel]

ok , this is all about recordings which are not out there, but which you would be dying to hear if they existed.
few of them that come to mind right now ( i hope they dont exist hehe, cuz i couldnt find them)  are:
argerich playing prokofiev concerto no.2,5  and his sonatas no.6 and 8, richter and gilels for prok2 and also volodos for prok2,3,5 and prokofiev sonatas.
michelangeli playing jeux d'eau  , and estampes by debussy  ( does this one exist???). definitely want to hear more by michelangeli that what exists.
richter playing rach3.   
complete rach preludes by richter , gilels ,argerich.
there are a lot more , but these are the ones that come to my mind right now.

[thalbergmad]

I wish Rachmaninoff had recorded the Henselt Concerto.

He played it in his youth, but never recorded it.

[mlsmithz]

Well, for me, the obvious answer to this would be a recording of Liszt playing anything, whether they be his own compositions or not (but I'd be particularly interested to hear how he imagined the Hungarian Rhapsodies, Transcendental Etudes, B minor sonata, and Mephisto Waltz should be performed).  So that some evidence would exist of whether or not he was all he was cracked up to be as a virtuoso performer.  Less obvious: Horowitz playing the Medtner sonatas.  Horowitz was a big advocate of Medtner's music and could certainly play a lot of the sonatas but didn't record many of them, if any.

[janne p.]

Busoni playing Bach-Busoni: Chaconne
Bach playing Bach-Busoni: Chaconne
Bach playing Die Kunst der Fuge, Goldberg Variations and WTC I & II
Beethoven playing his complete sonatas
Chopin playing his waltzes, mazurkas and nocturnes
Dreyschock playing the Revolutionary with octaves
Clara Schumann playing Robert's Concerto
Mozart playing Scriabin's "Black mass" sonata  

[pseudopianist]

Mozart playing Scriabin's "Black mass" sonata  

I was just thinking that

[larse]

yep...me too, about Mozart playing scriabin..
It would also be fun hearing Bach playing Chick Corea, Keith Jarrett or perhaps Kapustin

And I would really love to hear what Rameau or CPE Bach had to say about Messiaen or Ligeti

[phil13]

(Sigh)... anybody playing my own two sonatas for piano and violin (that is, once the second one is finished)

Phil

[pita bread]

Cortot playing Ravel's Ondine (this recording was made, but never released)
Scriabin playing his own 7th and 10th Sonatas.

[ravel]

oh yaaaaa, i would love to hear cortot playing more ravel. all i have heard is his jeux d'eau.
and yes, lizst playing anything .  even if it is music i didnt like. i would still be curious, how lizst sounded. hmmmmmmmmmm..
hmmmmmmmmm how would glenn gould sound playing debussy?? hehe. 

[thierry13]

hmmmmmmmmm how would glenn gould sound playing debussy?? hehe. 

I don't even want to imagine.

[pita bread]

I don't even want to imagine.

And Gould's recording of La Valse stands testament to that.

[thierry13]

And Gould's recording of La Valse stands testament to that.

Isn't La valse Ravel ??

[pita bread]

Yes.

Gould's intepretation of La Valse is so lacking color that I wouldn't want to imagine what his Debussy would have sounded like.

[brewtality]

Hofmann playing Liszt's Don Juan fantasy & Tannhauser (supposedly a recording of this exists). Rosenthal in his technical prime (playing anything). The recordings Friedman made in Australia (stupid Australians).

[bachelssohn]

Mendelssohn playing Bach.

Andras Schiff complete Mendelssohn Songs Without Words.

My piano teacher, the complete Beethoven Sonatas.

[ahmedito]

Me playing the fourth beethoven concerto with the Berlin phil and Abado conducting.

[JCarey]

Jonathan Powell - Opus Clavicembalisticum

[stevie]

cziffra playing alkan

[guru_of_time]

Richter - Rach 3 & Prokofiev 2, 3
Argerich - Rach 2 & Prokofiev 2
Horowitz - Rach 2 & Prokofiev 2, 3
Volodos - Rach 2 & Prokofiev 2, 3

lol

[Etude]

Jonathan Powell - Opus Clavicembalisticum

Same with me.

[Etude]

It'd be interesting to here Sorabji's 5th sonata too.    
I've heard it's around 5 hours long.

[da jake]

Composer's playing all their own works, plus their favorite works.

Gould playing the 1st Ballade. 

cziffra playing alkan

YES.

[pita bread]

I wish Donna Amato's performance of the Sorabji Piano Concerto #2 (not sure since they're mis-numbered) was recorded.

[JCarey]

It'd be interesting to here Sorabji's 5th sonata too.    
I've heard it's around 5 hours long.

True. It might be Powell's next project after he's recorded the OC. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

Then again, it might take him 5 months to learn. He might not want to invest so much time into learning it.  

[JCarey]

I wish Donna Amato's performance of the Sorabji Piano Concerto #2 (not sure since they're mis-numbered) was recorded.

I second this one. Perhaps Alistair could tell us what this piece is like, and if Amato is planning on recording it.

[pita bread]

Then again, it might take him 5 months to learn. He might not want to invest so much time into learning it. 

In Dr. Evil voice - Why learn one Sorabji piece in 5 months, when you can learn five?

[quantum]

Mozart playing Scriabin's "Black mass" sonata 

Yes!!! 

I'd like to hear the live premiere performance of Chopin playing his Op. 2 Variations on "La ci darem la mano".  The one which Schubert gave the rave review. 

[shasta]

*The time when Liszt performed one of Chopin's nocturnes for Chopin and hammed it up so much that Chopin got disgusted and took the bench himself and played it

*Paganini performing anything

*Clara Schumann performing Robert's concerto (agree with Janne P.)

*Fanny performing Mendelssohn's G minor concerto

*Liszt sight-reading the Grieg concerto for Grieg

*Bach performing his famous Toccata & Fugue in D minor

*The soprano who premiered Mozart's Queen of the Night aria

*Chopin playing (even just hearing) the Chopin-Godowsky etudes.  I bet he would've been so thrilled!

*The original recorder/piccolo player who premiered Vivaldi's C major piccolo concerto

[prometheus]

Any Sorabji work by a capable performer.

[pianobil]

Mr. Posti,

Just thought you would be interested - Busoni DID record the Bach-Busoni Chaccone; it is a derivative performance from the duo-art reproducing piano rolls.  The CD can be found here:

https://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=73632

There are also electric recordings made in the 1920s, but are unfortunately limited to short pieces, where there were no editing capabilities to speak of.  I hope you find and enjoy his recordings; for years they have been among the most fascinating recordings I have ever heard.

Best,
Bill

P.S.  A recording I wish had been made but never was would have been Hofmann and Rachmaninov playing Rachmaninov's two piano suites.  They actually did play them together, to great acclaim, and went to RCA with a request to record, but were turned down.  Ouch!  What a loss!

[thracozaag]

Mr. Posti,

Just thought you would be interested - Busoni DID record the Bach-Busoni Chaccone; it is a derivative performance from the duo-art reproducing piano rolls.  The CD can be found here:

https://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=73632

There are also electric recordings made in the 1920s, but are unfortunately limited to short pieces, where there were no editing capabilities to speak of.  I hope you find and enjoy his recordings; for years they have been among the most fascinating recordings I have ever heard.

Best,
Bill

P.S.  A recording I wish had been made but never was would have been Hofmann and Rachmaninov playing Rachmaninov's two piano suites.  They actually did play them together, to great acclaim, and went to RCA with a request to record, but were turned down.  Ouch!  What a loss!

  Actually that was Rachmaninoff and Horowitz (RCA also turned down Rachmaninoff's request to have engineers follow him on a concert tour, and thus we are deprived of his interpretation of the Liszt B minor Sonata).
  Naxos has just released the Busoni acoustic recordings, remastered under the guidance of the phenomenal Ward Marston.  The sound is amazingly restored.

koji

[pabst]

  Actually that was Rachmaninoff and Horowitz (RCA also turned down Rachmaninoff's request to have engineers follow him on a concert tour, and thus we are deprived of his interpretation of the Liszt B minor Sonata).

https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00007MB8E/qid=1125859087/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-6136362-8441728?v=glance&s=classical&n=507846 - Shacking up to Chopin

businessmen will ruin the earth XD

[etudes]

  Actually that was Rachmaninoff and Horowitz (RCA also turned down Rachmaninoff's request to have engineers follow him on a concert tour, and thus we are deprived of his interpretation of the Liszt B minor Sonata).
  Naxos has just released the Busoni acoustic recordings, remastered under the guidance of the phenomenal Ward Marston.  The sound is amazingly restored.

koji

did u mention Busoni cd with his pupils?

[hodi]

Richter - Rach 3 & Prokofiev 2, 3
Argerich - Rach 2 & Prokofiev 2
Horowitz - Rach 2 & Prokofiev 2, 3
Volodos - Rach 2 & Prokofiev 2, 3

lol

well THERE IS a recording of volodos playing rach2 & paganini rhapsody.
really.

[janne p.]

Mr. Posti,

Just thought you would be interested - Busoni DID record the Bach-Busoni Chaccone; it is a derivative performance from the duo-art reproducing piano rolls.  The CD can be found here:

https://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=73632

Thanks for the tip! I'll have to get my hands on that disc somehow...I'd love to hear his Feux follets too.

[sharon_f]

Dinu Lipatti playing all the Chopin Nocturnes. The only one he recorded that I'm aware of is the D flat Op. 27, No. 2. It's absolutely gorgeous. And I wish he had recorded the Ballades too.

[brewtality]

Another one: Josef Lhevinne playing the Brahms Paganini Variations live. I'd be amazed to hear his octave stacatto trick.

[ahinton]

It'd be interesting to here Sorabji's 5th sonata too.    
I've heard it's around 5 hours long.

That's going to have to wait rather longer than OC, I fear; a new edition must first be prepared (this is under way, but I cannot confirm when it will be completed) and then someone will have to prepare a performance of it. Don't expect results by the end of next week!

Best,

Alistair

[prometheus]

Mr. Posti,

Just thought you would be interested - Busoni DID record the Bach-Busoni Chaccone; it is a derivative performance from the duo-art reproducing piano rolls. 

I have heard it and it is the best Piano roll recording I have ever heard. I actually prefer Busoni's recording over many real recordings.

[burstroman]

Berezovsky playing Alkan's "Symphonie".

[burstroman]

P.S.  Charles Ives playing the "Concord" Sonata.

[musicsdarkangel]

Horowitz's recording of pretty much any of the romantic concertos that he didn't do.


Hamelin - Godowsky Studies on Chopin

OH WAIT A MINUTE, he did do those!!   

[etudes]

cziffra recorded something more from alkan !!!
Hexameron world premier by that 6 pianists!
liszt everything
Lang Lang - OC (maybe ......)

[arensky]

Cortot playing Ravel's Ondine (this recording was made, but never released)
Scriabin playing his own 7th and 10th Sonatas.

Cortot Ondine....ooohhhh! Want to hear it, it was made but does it survive?

There is a Welte-Mignon piano roll of Scriabin playing the Etude in D# minor op.8 #12, lots of rubato (like a Liszt student on amphetamines) and some wrong notes, but fascinating. It's how I first jeard this piece, my teacherr had it in a Welte Mignon LP box set; this was my avenue to Horowitz, his was the first available recording I came across.

Back to the thread... recordings that I wish existed...
  

MY Complete Piano Music of Ravel..(it will be, in the not too distant future)
ME Playing Scriabin 3rd Sonata, 8th Sonata, Preludes op.74, 4th Sonata, 5th Sonata, Poemes and Etudes and Preludes and Pieces and lions and tigers OH MY!!! (this will happen before Ravel Complete)
ME playing Medtner Concerto #1 and Scriabin Concerto (or Rachmaninov 4th)
MY favorite Liszt
Soon I will be "releasing" (self publication) my first "Jazz" record; will probably post a number or two.

MEIMYMEIMYMEIMYMEIMYMEIMYMEIMYMEIMYMEIMYMEIMYMEIMYMEIMYMEIMYMEIMY HAAH!!!  

Oh, have to do the Mozart Haydn Benda record to prove I'm a good musician, not just a pianist 

[arensky]

Horowitz's recording of pretty much any of the romantic concertos that he didn't do.

Yes, the Medtner 1st Concerto, he considered seriously considered performing/recording it in the 70's.

[arensky]

https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00007MB8E/qid=1125859087/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-6136362-8441728?v=glance&s=classical&n=507846 - Shacking up to Chopin

businessmen will ruin the earth XD

They almost have, but now we have the internet and we can all post stuff, the record executives are the new dinosaurs. They will be tomorrow's petroleum (how fitting  )

[rob47]

or horowitz playing arensky in fminor is it? would be awesome....

rubinstein playing petrouchka..i wonder if he ever even tried (those who don't know the piano transcription was dedicated to artur by stravinsky).

[pita bread]

I'd like to hear Arthur Rubinstein playing Stravinsky's Petrushka and de Falla's Fantasia Baetica (both dedicated to Rubinstein).

[ahinton]

1. All three Medtner Piano Concerti with Rakhmaninov as soloist
2. Sorabji's Opus Clavicembalisticum played by Jonathan Powell

At least we can look forward to one of these...

Best,

Alistair

P.S. This list is not meant to be taken as comprehensive, of course...

[ahinton]

I might have added Jonathan Powell playing Sorabji's Gulistan and Rosario d'Arabeschi - but I can't any longer, because at last it DOES exist!

Best,

Alistair