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Offline pianodaria

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Sexuality in Music???
on: September 10, 2005, 11:53:39 PM
Hello there! It is my first entrance in this forum, and I have to admit, I like discussions that take place here. They are full of curiosity and life!

I am not sure, if the question I want to ask have already appreared on previous pages, but, maybe, not.

What connection does sexuality have with music, whether you play or listen to it? I noticed that certain pieces give me much more than goose bumps... they put me on the Seventh Heaven, and I want it to last forever. The pieces include choral works.

Sincerely yours,
Da
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Offline stevie

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #1 on: September 11, 2005, 12:23:55 AM
haha, quite an entrance you have there ;)

not sure if this pertaint to anything, but one time i had no pornography or female companion available, and 'got off' on a climatic section from a scriabin sonata.

no piece turns me on my itself, but if im already in the mood, there are some pieces of music that enhance it greatly.

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #2 on: September 11, 2005, 01:08:33 AM
I swear I have seen this once before... quite a while back... and as soon as my eyes crossed this threads title, a whole bunch of words left me directed at this thread which are most certainly vulgar.

I don't have great forum experience despite the time I spend on them, since I don't make alot of observations... but I think this person is just trying to make a silly start, like a Teacher's Section Thread i saw a while back ~_~

But despite how... hmmm... perculiar the question is, there is atleast some relevance I can identify. A really famous J-Rock band called "X Japan" (I am insane over them, there music is... to say the least, perfection), but they created a song called Orgasm, which although I havn't analysed the piece, there are certain... "noises" you hear at the start clearly representing some 18 Rated behaviour ::)

Point being... I can understand it being within music (not sure how you would portray it in Piano solo), but I certainly have never took THAT sort of pleasure from playing my pieces. I most certainly can get involved... but that is a little too much for me :o

I think I'm now going to ponder to myself why on Earth I answered to this thread :-\

I withdraw my comments at the beginning of this post, I just met her right now in the Chat Room, and she seems very sincere (and nice!). I guess that's what the "Corrupt Internet World" caused me to think, my apologies Pianodaria! >_< And again, welcome to the forum ;)

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #3 on: September 11, 2005, 03:18:32 AM
Scriabin is pretty sensual.

And X Japan rocks!

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #4 on: September 11, 2005, 04:16:16 AM
Mephisto Waltz is pretty much all about sex.

On the other end, Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune is all about not getting any.  ;)

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #5 on: September 11, 2005, 04:23:24 AM
Mephisto Waltz is pretty much all about sex.

On the other end, Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune is all about not getting any.  ;)
Did you ever see "Allegro non troppo"? It's the Italian version of Fantasia, but with some very cool twists.

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #6 on: September 11, 2005, 05:26:31 AM
i heard mazeppa is about being raped by a horse, is this correct?

strangely i think this piece has an intense sexual energy to it.

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #7 on: September 11, 2005, 05:29:57 AM
i heard mazeppa is about being raped by a horse, is this correct?

strangely i think this piece has an intense sexual energy to it.
predictably, it's played best by none other than the HORSEF*CKER himself

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #8 on: September 11, 2005, 05:37:20 AM
Which guy is that?

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #9 on: September 11, 2005, 06:34:42 AM
Da Pavement mozt likely.

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #10 on: September 11, 2005, 06:55:50 AM
Da Pavement mozt likely.
hahahaha actually no  8)

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #11 on: September 11, 2005, 03:55:33 PM
predictably, it's played best by none other than the HORSEF*CKER himself

that is the most recent winner of the Liszt competition.  The nice name was attributed by none other than the legendary Jeff.

If sex = wild ride... yeah, Mazeppa is all about sex  ;D

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #12 on: September 11, 2005, 05:37:55 PM
i heard mazeppa is about being raped by a horse, is this correct?

strangely i think this piece has an intense sexual energy to it.

Actually, my perception of Mazeppa from performer's point of view is completely different from listener's. Mazeppa requires a tremendous control of a huge emotional build-up while being played, and it is exhausting, exhilarating and rewarding at the same time. Maybe, it is possible to feel an intense sexual content there, but I would rather compare it to an uncultivated physical energy that needs to be fully experienced and, I guess, conquered at the end. Although, when I listen to it, I never feel quite the same; nothing is enough.

Sincerely yours,
Da
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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #13 on: September 14, 2005, 12:34:04 AM
Well, I went to a masterclass and played the posthumous Chopin Nocturne in c# minor... this was one part of it (she's very eccentric)

Teacher - "Have you ever been in love?"
Audience giggles
Me- *speechless*
Teacher- "You need to play your trills like you're in love."

That count?

Calih

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #14 on: September 14, 2005, 05:32:29 PM
i heard mazeppa is about being raped by a horse, is this correct?

strangely i think this piece has an intense sexual energy to it.

what?! you can't be serious!

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #15 on: September 15, 2005, 05:04:10 AM
not sure if this pertaint to anything, but one time i had no pornography or female companion available, and 'got off' on a climatic section from a scriabin sonata.

So you were just listening to it, and when the climax hit you needed to change your pants?

OR

were you thinking about stuff, listening to it, and doing something else; the climax of the piece coincidentally ca......er....arrived..at the same time?

That's really fascinating if it's option one. However if it's option two, you're randomly a little sick in the head, which is ok.

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #16 on: September 15, 2005, 05:24:18 AM
Scriabin is pretty sensual.

Yeah, he is :)

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #17 on: September 16, 2005, 05:54:11 AM
Sex is everywhere in music!  I guess now that you think of it, I see most romantic music in a sexual way, with passion, foreplay, orgasms, and then sitting back and lighting up a cigarette, it's all there.  Sometimes there is a great deal of teasing and temptation, and resistance.  Or sometimes it is just plain horny.  But do I feel that way while playing it?  No, but it helps me understand where I am going with it.

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #18 on: September 16, 2005, 03:17:19 PM
So you were just listening to it, and when the climax hit you needed to change your pants?

OR

were you thinking about stuff, listening to it, and doing something else; the climax of the piece coincidentally ca......er....arrived..at the same time?

That's really fascinating if it's option one. However if it's option two, you're randomly a little sick in the head, which is ok.




hmmm, weel since i am very well endowed it takes a while to get things back up again...if you know what i mean, so i was just listening to the music at the time and didnt feel like spending ages getting porn...and i arrived at the same time as the climax of the music, it was sexually exciting.

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #19 on: September 17, 2005, 12:29:07 AM
Okay, Stevie, I'll let others worry about if that's over the line.  ;) Really, though, the entire literary and music structures are arranged similarly to the sex act. While some composers and writers are clearly sexier than others, they all follow the same basic pattern--introduction of themes, embroilment, and finally climax. Whether the "art" act is based on the sex act, or the other way around, I'll also leave to someone else to figure out.

BTW, does anyway else feel that explicitly spiritual music is far more sensual? Like Bach and Messiaen, perhaps merely because both are so deeply celebratory. On the other hand, the devastatingly nihilistic end of Shostakovich 5, with those d major trumpet blasts, is about the least sexy moment in music.
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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #20 on: September 17, 2005, 12:45:41 AM
i wonder whats considered more sexy to the general public-

a cheesy porn soundtrack or a scriabin sonata...

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #21 on: September 17, 2005, 02:20:06 AM
Ginastera 2nd Argentine dance is very uh....sensual. Maybe.
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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #22 on: September 17, 2005, 05:10:52 AM
Brahms 4th hungarian dance is pretty sexy too. ;D
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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #23 on: September 17, 2005, 02:52:21 PM
Brahms 4th hungarian dance is pretty sexy too. ;D

true!

the cziffra version is a bit wilder though, still sexy though.

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Re: Sexuality in Music???
Reply #24 on: September 18, 2005, 03:15:52 AM
not sure if this pertaint to anything, but one time i had no pornography or female companion available, and 'got off' on a climatic section from a scriabin sonata.


LOL


That's f'n hilarious  I think I'm going to cry.
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