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Offline la_carrenio2003

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The dreamed recital...
on: August 10, 2003, 10:08:26 AM
If you had to play in the Carnegie Hall or wherever you dream to play in, what would you play?

I think in this program:

Bach: 4 duets
Mozart: Sonata KV 281
Beethoven: Sonata op. 101

Scriabin: 3rd sonata
Prokofieff:8th sonata
Shostakovich: Prelude and fugue no. 15

And as encores some Schumann's novelettes, some Prokofieff's Visions fugitives op. 22, some Scriabin, Liszt,Rachmaninoff and Chopin etudes and of course some venezuelan pieces with intrincated folk rhythms. So, I'm ready because in fact, I already play everything I listed... :)
"Soli Deo Gloria".
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Offline tph

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #1 on: August 10, 2003, 10:24:57 AM
Would you play the encores in the same evening, or would you book Carnegie for another night?   :)

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Offline la_carrenio2003

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #2 on: August 10, 2003, 12:31:18 PM
You're right about that's too much, but I was in recitals of Bashkirov, in Kiew, and Barenboim's, here in Caracas,and they were playing encores for almost an hour...
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Offline Noah

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #3 on: August 10, 2003, 06:15:47 PM
Bach - Partita n. 2 in C minor, BWV 826
Bartòk - Sonata, Sz 80 (1926)
Mozart - Sonata in D, K. 311

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Schubert - Impromptu in f minor, Op. 140 n. 4
Chopin - Ballade n. 4 in f minor, Op. 52
Debussy - Estampes

Encores   ;D

Britten - Nocturne
Bach - Prelude & Fugue in b minor (Book I)
Piazzolla - Tangos
Brahms - Hungarian Dances
Prokofiev - Suggestions Diaboliques, Op. 4 n. 4
Debussy - L'Isle Joyeuse
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Offline allchopin

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #4 on: August 10, 2003, 07:44:58 PM
What is the difference betweena normal piece and an encore piece?
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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #5 on: August 10, 2003, 09:57:20 PM
wut about chopin's winter etude?  ;D

and btw like allchopin said wut is the diff between normal and encore?

Offline la_carrenio2003

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #6 on: August 10, 2003, 10:42:27 PM
"Normal" pieces are written in the program,everybody knows that you will play them. Playing encores depends on how much the public applauses at the end of the recital, you can't let them without something else, it happens when you have to come out more than 3 times because of the applauses.Sometimes they just can't let go the pianist, as the cases I mentioned before. And it also demonstrates how vast your repertoire is...
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Offline BoliverAllmon

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #7 on: August 11, 2003, 01:20:22 AM
How about an all Beethoven recital.

Hammerklavier

Waldstein

Appassionate

That would show off a bit.

NO idea on encores though.

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Offline allchopin

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #8 on: August 11, 2003, 03:20:38 AM
Heh id have to, of course, bring up the all-chopin recital:
- Scherzo in Bb minor
- Ballade #1,2, or 4 (i rather dislike 3)
- Various etudes (op 10- 1,3,4,12, op 25- 5,7,11,12)
- Waltz in A minor posthumous
- Preludes 1,3,16,9

Encores:
- Fantasie-Impromptu op. 66
- Minute Waltz
- Prelude #24

Ok so i dont get it- an encore is just another piece, but possibly a bit more exciting?  How would an audience force you to play again? If you are allotted 1 hour on stage, why/how would you play longer?
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Reply #9 on: August 11, 2003, 04:09:51 AM
oooh ic but i guess you must be REALLY good to get the audience to make you play encores?  and does it happen at competitions?  (haha)

well encores, lets see, Waltz no.5 in a-flat major by Chopin!  that's a nice little piece

or fur elise to piss the audience off hehe

Offline Irock1ce

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #10 on: August 11, 2003, 06:17:35 AM
Bach-French Suite #5
Beethoven-Waldstein or Tempest
Schubert-Impromptu op.90 no.3 and no.4
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Liszt-La Campanella
Chopin-Revolutionary Etude
Scriabin-5th sonata
Chopin-Ballade in g minor
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Encores:
Fantasie impromptu
Debussy-estampes
Chopin-Nocturne in C#minor(posthum)
Schumann-Traumerie (last)

Yeah i kno all my songs are like overplayed.. but i love them.

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Offline la_carrenio2003

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #11 on: August 11, 2003, 07:04:55 AM
allchopin:
The encores just have to be short pieces, not necessarily more exciting than the program itself. Bashkirov, for example, played transcriptions of Schubert's lieder. And Gabriela Montero, the greatest venezuelan pianist now, asks the public for themes and improvises on them.But the public don't force you: you can not play if you don't want to, actually Gabriela, when she played Rachmaninoff 3rd here for the 1st time, went out and said that she was too tired and couldn't play anymore. Encores are like a gift for the audience: you want, you play them -or if you can... usually only the greatests pianists do it and are ask for it-
"Soli Deo Gloria".
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Offline eddie92099

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #12 on: August 11, 2003, 08:12:06 AM
In some cases they are not short pieces though - John Ogdon played the Ravel Left Hand concerto with the right hand as accompaniment as an encore! When I saw Baremboim, he played Scarlatti encores, Ashkenazy played Schubert, Perahia played Chopin etudes and Kissin played the Virtuoso stuff (Rachmaninov's Scherzo from A Midsummer Night's Dream transcription, Glinka/Balakirev The Lark etc.),
Ed

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #13 on: August 11, 2003, 06:53:38 PM
Here are two programs:

1) Bach - Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue
   Roger Sessions - From My Diary
   Beethoven - Sonata Op109
          **intermission**
   Chopin - Etudes Opus 25.

*encore - Chopin Barcarolle.

2) Schumann - Papillons
   Schumann - Fantasy
         **intermission**
   Schubert Sonata in A maj. - Posth.

*encore - Schubert Impromptu Op 90#3
   
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Offline steinway23

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #14 on: August 17, 2003, 01:50:19 PM
Oh God... this is a tough cookie coz there are so many pieces i want to play for a recital !!! I havent programmed them nicely but there are certain pieces that i definitely would want to learn before i go meet up with God..

Bach Partita no.2, French Overture and Italian Concerto
Beethoven Tempest Sonata
Haydn Late Sonatas
Schubert Impromptus and Moment Musicauxs
Ravel Le Tombeau De Couperin, Sonatine and Jeux D'eau
Liszt B minor Sonata and some of the Years of Pilgrimage
Rachmaninov- Any of his piano works; Piano Sonata no.2 for sure!!!!

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #15 on: August 17, 2003, 07:19:36 PM
Well, I can't really put these in an order, but here are some pieces I would like to perform someday:
Rachmaninoff's Sonata op. 28
Rachmaninoff's Sonata #2 (1913 version, I forget the op. number)
Beethovens Hammerklavier, Pathetique, and Waldstein Sonatas
Liszt's Sonata in B Minor
Sorabji's Gulistan
Just about anything actally, by Chopin or Rachmaninoff, most of Liszt and Beethoven, and maybe a little Ravel (Ondine, especially) or Debussey (Reverie) also.

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #16 on: August 20, 2003, 08:27:52 AM
Well, along the lines of the all-Chopin concert, I might do all the Ballades and all the Scherzos, with the Fantasie Op. 49 and the Beginning as an extra and the Fantasie-Impromtu (or a few Etudes) as encore...  I'm not sure if that would be too long.  I haven't been to many concerts.
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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #17 on: August 25, 2003, 01:46:52 AM
Whatever it is, I just want to play the Rachmaninoff 3rd concerto!!! Period.

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #18 on: August 25, 2003, 05:50:52 AM
wooah Beethoven87 playing all 4 of Chopin's ballades might be a bit too overwhelming in one performance

You should mix up the pieces a bit

add some waltz at least =]

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #19 on: August 25, 2003, 02:13:27 PM
Nikolai Demidenko came to do a recital at my school and played a Chopin Impromptu followed by the Four Ballards in the first half (with Pictures in the second) and it was a fine recital!
Ed

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Re: The dreamed recital...
Reply #20 on: April 06, 2004, 01:46:20 AM
I shall be hearing Demidenko very soon, and he will be giving a recital this month (April 2004) and the second half of the recital is exactly the complete Chopin Ballades.

My dream recital currently is an all-Liszt programme which I am working on:

- 3 Etudes de Concert
 (Il lamento, La leggierezza, Un sospiro)
- Vallee d'Obermann
- Sonettos 47, 104, 123 del Petrarca
- Apres un Lecture du Dante - Fantasia quasi Sonata
- Etudes d execution Transcendante
 (Mazeppa, Vision, Ricordanza, Harmonies du soir)
- 3 Liebestraumes

Having said that I still haven't got the guts to start working on the Sonata in B minor, even though I could play the "Dante Sonata" by heart. Otherwise I could have packed two all-Liszt recitals . . .
Peter (Hong Kong)
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