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Offline depp

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How important is it to play correct?
on: September 26, 2005, 01:20:25 PM
Hi!

How fast is allegro? How loud is forte? How to play rubato?

How can you know if you are playing correct and how important is this?

//Depp

Offline xvimbi

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Re: How important is it to play correct?
Reply #1 on: September 26, 2005, 02:09:44 PM
If you play only for yourself, do whatever you want, as long as you enjoy it. If you play for others, you will have to adhere to certain standards, unless you don't care.

The questions you are asking are best discussed with a competent teacher.

Have fun!

Offline zheer

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Re: How important is it to play correct?
Reply #2 on: September 26, 2005, 02:10:37 PM
I rather listen to a beutifull rewin than a perefect crap.
" Nothing ends nicely, that's why it ends" - Tom Cruise -

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Re: How important is it to play correct?
Reply #3 on: September 26, 2005, 06:37:30 PM
and how important is this?
//Depp

Not at all. We should adopt more from the computer world: "Press any key to continue"

bye
Berrt

Offline dolcejen

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Re: How important is it to play correct?
Reply #4 on: September 26, 2005, 07:21:41 PM
How can you know if you are playing correct and how important is this?
//Depp
Hello!
This quote from Josef Hofmann has been invaluable (Instead of bludering my way through explaining it, I will simply let his own words speak for themselves):

"The blurring of the tonal picture produces a temporary (don't be frightened!) paralysis of the motoric centres which control the fingers. Every pianist knows - unfortunately - the sensation of having his fingers begin to "stick" as if the keys were covered with flypaper, and he knows, also, that this sensation is but a warning that the fingers are going on a general and even "sympathetic" strike - sympathetic, because even the momentarily unconcerned fingers participate in it. Now the cause of this sensation lies not in a defective action of the fingers themselves, but solely in the mind. It is there that some undesired change has taken place, a change which impairs the action of the fingers. The process is like this: by quick repetitions of complicated figures, slight errors, slips, flaws, escape our notice; the more quick repetitions we make the larger will be the number of these tiny blots, and this must needs lead finally to a completely distorted tonal picture. This distortion, however, is not the worst feature. Inasmuch as we are very likely not to make the same little blunders at every repetition the tonal picture becomes confused, blurred. The nerve contacts which cause the fingers to act become undecided first, then they begin to fail more and more, until they cease altogether and the fingers - stick! At such a juncture the student should at once resort to slow practice. he whould play the defective place clearly, orderly, and, above all, slowly, and persist in this course until the number of correct repetitions proves sufficient to crowd the confused tonal picture out of the mind...Make the mental tonal picture sharp; the fingers must and will obey it."

So if you like the "sticky-finger" phenomenon, play messy all you like. I personally detest it and have found "sharpening my mental tonal picture" by slow practice to be quite helpful.

Offline chopiabin

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Re: How important is it to play correct?
Reply #5 on: September 26, 2005, 09:20:15 PM
Do you mean, "How important it to play correctly"?

Btw I really like the Hoffman quote

Offline alzado

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Re: How important is it to play correct?
Reply #6 on: September 27, 2005, 08:21:59 PM
One other thing to remember -- the dynamics are relative to each other. 

So if you really just cannot play a piece up to speed, at least you can play largo slower than andante and andante slower than allegro. 

You can at least play mf less loud than ff.   And so on.

One odd thing is that professional recordings may sometimes be played FASTER than the actual composer's tempo (if he put one in).

I think that is because professionals have to show off their great skills, and one way to do that is to "blaze through" difficult passages.

Good luck--

Offline lilpianist

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Re: How important is it to play correct?
Reply #7 on: September 28, 2005, 01:44:04 AM
I'm w/ zheer and berrt. Go 4 it!  :)
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