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Topic: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin  (Read 4207 times)

Offline mr89

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Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
on: October 08, 2005, 12:49:54 PM
Here my recordings of Bach's WTK II n.6 prelude in D minor, Mendelssohn's op.104a n.2 prelude in B minor and Chopin's preludes op.28 nn.15 in D flat and 20 in C minor.
I hope you enjoy them!  ;D

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #1 on: October 08, 2005, 02:58:10 PM
 :o WOW!!!  :o
they are so good!!!! it was so nice to listen to them!!!
btw...I found your website and listened to some more recordings...
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I hope you enjoy them!
I DID!!!!!
Incredible good playing!
thanks

palika  :)

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #2 on: October 08, 2005, 05:41:37 PM
Those disklaviers are amazing things, aren't they?

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #3 on: October 08, 2005, 08:22:07 PM
Ehm... what's a "disklavier"? :-[

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #4 on: October 08, 2005, 08:23:48 PM
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Incredible good playing!
thanks
Thanks to you!  ;D

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #5 on: October 08, 2005, 08:58:28 PM
If that isn't altered, then I am Santa Claus.

People can't even post an honest recording these days...

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #6 on: October 08, 2005, 11:31:16 PM
how do you say 'doctored' in Italian?

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #7 on: October 09, 2005, 06:28:52 PM
We say "laureato"!  ;D
The recordings aren't altered, Santa Claus!  ;)  :)

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #8 on: October 09, 2005, 07:31:15 PM
I think the recordings sound too much like played by a computer program. I don't know what exactly makes them sound like this, though
OSMOSE NOW

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #9 on: October 09, 2005, 08:07:35 PM
Well, I like them. Is it possible that the others are just jealous?

It all happens on Discworld, where greed and ignorance influence human behavior... and perfectly ordinary people occasionally act like raving idiots.

A world, in short, totally unlike our own.

Offline mr89

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #10 on: October 09, 2005, 08:12:16 PM
I hope no, but i can ensure that the pianist that you are listening to it's me!  :)

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #11 on: October 09, 2005, 08:16:00 PM
Don't get me wrong, you played technically fantastic, but mmh.. something was missing
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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #12 on: October 09, 2005, 10:05:05 PM
The first recording sounds like a great MIDI rendition of something.

I wouldn't argue that the other records are indeed authentic, but something is very wrong with the first.

When you cross all recordings together, there is no way the first one can be played by the same person as the rest. Everything just seems different.

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #13 on: October 10, 2005, 01:45:38 PM
Well... i must say that i have a strange conception of Bach's WTK. Probabily i have been influenced by Richter performances...
I'll try to reduce virtuosism in the WTK interpretation...
Thanks for the advices!  :)

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #14 on: October 11, 2005, 02:47:53 AM
Ehm... what's a "disklavier"? :-[


It's a yamaha digital piano, we can tell its being used as there is absolutely no backgraound noise or fuzz in your recordings.
Medtner, man.

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #15 on: October 11, 2005, 03:29:53 AM
It's nice to see you try honing your skills. Here are some pointers that hopefully help you to improve so that it doesn't become that easy to spot: First, there is absolutely no dynamic variation in the first pieces, and the rhythm is absolutely (i.e. mathematically) stable. Get a program that allows "human-like" articulations, e.g. Sibelius, or learn how to use those tools. Second, nobody would play the Mendelssohn like that, even if they technically could. Again, way to mathematical. Finally, nobody who is serious about it and has actually learned the piece would confuse Bach's WTK II n.6 prelude in D minor BWV 876 with BWV 875. The only piece that I halfway buy is the Chopin. But I must say, it's god-awful. That piece is not meant to put people to sleep.

Nice try, buddy!

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #16 on: October 11, 2005, 06:22:44 AM
I think it's genuine, it sounds mechanical because it's a keyboard. There is the occasional wrong note and step out of tempo.

Marco, post something on an acoustic piano; they're better, anyway...
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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #17 on: October 11, 2005, 12:59:08 PM
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Finally, nobody who is serious about it and has actually learned the piece would confuse Bach's WTK II n.6 prelude in D minor BWV 876 with BWV 875.
I've missed one number... it is possible to humans like me, not for gods like you!  ;)

I've already said that my recordings are genuine, if you don't want to believe that or if you don't like them, simply DONT'LISTEN THEM!  ;D

Whitout resentment...  ;)

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I think it's genuine, it sounds mechanical because it's a keyboard. There is the occasional wrong note and step out of tempo.

Marco, post something on an acoustic piano; they're better, anyway...
See in the other topic!  ;) ;D

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #18 on: October 11, 2005, 01:25:03 PM
I've already said that my recordings are genuine, if you don't want to believe that or if you don't like them, simply DONT'LISTEN THEM!  ;D

It doesn't help to follow a statement like "my recordings are genuine" with an emoticon like ";D".
You will get people into the wrong mindset from the start.

If the recordings are genuine, you should be giving concerts not hanging around on forums all the time...

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #19 on: October 11, 2005, 02:55:57 PM
In fact i give concerts!  >:( (do you prefer that face?)

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #20 on: October 11, 2005, 03:31:45 PM
In fact i give concerts!  >:( (do you prefer that face?)

What I meant was that you should be giving concerts INSTEAD OF hanging around on forums  8)

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #21 on: October 11, 2005, 04:30:08 PM
So  i should delete my topics?

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #22 on: October 12, 2005, 02:16:05 AM
Post a recording of the 4th movement of hammerklavier and i will believe you.

Medtner, man.

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #23 on: October 12, 2005, 03:27:27 AM
As others have pointed out, they sound a bit too mechanical.  Are you doing some sort of quantizing when recording or editing?  It sure sounds like it.  It may be you playing them, but there is somthing else going on between the performance and the final version we are getting to hear. 

Well I took the liberty of visiting your website as well. Of the ones on your site I selected, Op.28 Nr.22 sounds the most convincing.  Did you use a different recording method for this one?

So what recording equipment and piano did you use?

By the way your Op.10 Nr.4 sounds Richter inspired.   ;)
Made a Liszt. Need new Handel's for Soler panel & Alkan foil. Will Faure Stein on the way to pick up Mendels' sohn. Josquin get Wolfgangs Schu with Clara. Gone Chopin, I'll be Bach

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #24 on: October 12, 2005, 08:42:01 AM
We say "laureato"!  ;D

:) I think he means doctored as in manipolare / falsoficare.

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #25 on: October 12, 2005, 01:09:20 PM
Post a recording of the 4th movement of hammerklavier and i will believe you.



The day that i study it, be sure that i will record it and post it here!   ;D

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As others have pointed out, they sound a bit too mechanical.  Are you doing some sort of quantizing when recording or editing?  It sure sounds like it.  It may be you playing them, but there is somthing else going on between the performance and the final version we are getting to hear. 

Well I took the liberty of visiting your website as well. Of the ones on your site I selected, Op.28 Nr.22 sounds the most convincing.  Did you use a different recording method for this one?

So what recording equipment and piano did you use?

By the way your Op.10 Nr.4 sounds Richter inspired.   

The prelude op.28 n.22 in G minor is one of my favourite pieces!  :) I recorded it as the others, and the bitrate is the same.
I'll try to post recordings with higher bitrate (because i record them in .wav from the digital piano and i must reduce the quality in mp3 32 kbps for web space problems, in fact my internet host can't support more than 100 mb of uploads)

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Op.28 Nr.22 sounds the most convincing

What do you want to mean with "convincing"?

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #26 on: October 13, 2005, 02:49:30 AM
I have to agree with those who say your recordings don't sound live...
if they are recorded slow and then sped up, or recorded in layers, just say so

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Re: Preludes by Bach, Mendelssohn and Chopin
Reply #27 on: October 20, 2005, 02:19:53 PM
The day that i study it, be sure that i will record it and post it here!   ;D


am sure you can do it by the end of this week. oh, while ur at it, y not putting gaspard and brahms paganini with it, too. it'll be awesome. wooohooo.....
dignity, love and joy.
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