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Offline amanfang

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1 mvmt Romantic work
on: October 23, 2005, 11:53:25 PM
I'm deciding on literature for a recital, and I need about 45 minutes of music.  So far I have Beethoven's Sonata Op. 54, and Griffes Fantasy Pieces Op. 6.  So I'm looking for a 1 movement Romantic work.  Something in the 10-15 minute range.  I would prefer not Chopin.  I would like something contrasting the other two as well.  Any suggestions?
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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #1 on: October 24, 2005, 02:09:40 AM
Liszt "Funerailles" is about 10 minutes.
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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #2 on: October 24, 2005, 04:19:40 PM
I do have small hands, and the chords with 10ths that can't be rolled easily would give me problems, unless I could "cheat" somehow. 
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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #3 on: October 24, 2005, 07:22:22 PM
have a look at liszt or thalberg operatic fantasias

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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #4 on: October 24, 2005, 08:00:01 PM
have a look at liszt or thalberg operatic fantasias



Especially Thalberg as he rarely gets played.

I am at the moment re-learning the Tausig-Weber-Invitation to the Dance.

It is a splendid display piece with memorable themes. But like Thalberg, it is not played often.
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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #5 on: October 25, 2005, 07:21:46 AM
Mendelssohn: Variation Serieuses (13 minutes)

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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #6 on: October 25, 2005, 04:28:21 PM
Rach sonata 1 - first movement? Amazing!!!
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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #7 on: October 25, 2005, 04:38:50 PM
there's another nice mendelssohn piece-andante cantabile and presto agitato. or the Tchaikowsky Dumka (if he fits the description of Romantic) there's always Islamey also. but i would go with a chopin piece myself.

ps you could look at a liszt HR if you have the time
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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #8 on: October 25, 2005, 06:40:14 PM
liszts hungarian rhapsody no2. (11 min.)


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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #9 on: October 25, 2005, 07:34:28 PM
I think a very good one for you to do would be the Prokofieff Sonata No. 3 in A.  It is  flashy and a good crowd-pleaser, and not extremely difficult to play.  It's a great piece.

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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #10 on: October 25, 2005, 07:51:03 PM
I was thinking about Dumka, and I was also looking at Saint-Saens/Liszt Danse Macabre.  Prok is 20th century, plus there are already two people here that have just played the A maj sonata.  I'd also prefer not to do just one movement of a multi-mvmt work.  I wouldn't be opposed to pairing preludes or nocturnes or something though, although I'd really like a "stand-alone piece."  Thanks for the suggestions.  Hopefully I'll get something definite nailed down in the next week or so.
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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #11 on: October 25, 2005, 08:18:48 PM
4th ballade,4th scherzo,barcarolle,Fantasie from chopin would fit easily
or else uhmmm maybe
Liszt Dante sonata (you have to play quite fast to fit in 15 mins)
or his 2nd Polonaise also fantastic
but for me 15 mins i would do a group of chopin or liszt etudes
liszt mazeppa,feux follets,10th transcendental some thing like this (should be a bit longer than 15)
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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #12 on: October 25, 2005, 08:21:03 PM
ohhh sorry
how could i forgot
andante spianato and grand polonaise brilliant would fit perfect like   somehow like polonaise fantasie also well.
for liszt thing one more suggestion is rhapsody espanole great piece!
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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #13 on: October 26, 2005, 03:50:14 AM
Especially Thalberg as he rarely gets played.

I am at the moment re-learning the Tausig-Weber-Invitation to the Dance.

It is a splendid display piece with memorable themes. But like Thalberg, it is not played often.

If you (amanfang) can find the sheet music to Thalberg's Robert le Diable paraphrase, you'd be set. I am usually stubbornly partial to Liszt (who did the Valse Infernal only from Robert le Diable), but in this case I must concede that Thalberg's version blows Liszt away, if only for its more complete feel. It's really an awesome piece, and comes in at 11 minutes. I don't know about the sheet music, though.

Balakirev's Islamey is a classic choice, but it sounds like you want to avoid familiar works (i.e., you said no Chopin); I'd also recommend the Spanish Rhapsody, which is fairly easy yet very effective, but also very popular. For other Liszt works, though, you can look into the "Don Juan" (Don Giovanni) Fantasy, "Reminisces de Norma" or "Sonnambula", "Niobe Fantasy" (incidentally, this is one of the pieces that Liszt famously used against Thalberg in the piano duel; although you probably wouldn't have time, wouldn't it be awesome to play one of Thalberg's operatic fantasies--I believe his paraphrase on "Moise" was used in the duel--and follow it up with Niobe?), Lucia de Lammermoor (although, this one is short, but I have intentionally left it here because I think it would be brilliant if paired with the Rigoletto Paraphrase, even though I know you want just one piece), the "Tannhauser Overture" reworking, or "Ernani." Most of those would be at least 10 minutes. Oooh, and how could I forget the William Tell Overture and Waltzes from Faust? (the latter is similar to, say, Danse Macabre like you mentioned, but I consider it to be more interesting and ultimately more successful, but that's just my opinion).

There are also the Liszt ballades--the first one is underrated and perhaps superior to the second, which is also a tremendous piece, if at times a little superficial (and no one can refute that it is a better concert piece). If you'd like to go with a Hungarian Rhapsody, naturally the best choices are 9, 12, and 14. Then, other Liszt pieces (forgive me, I've been having quite an extensive period of Liszt studying/obsession) may include Valle d'Obermann, Polonaise no. 1 (or 2, which is my favorite of the two, but is shorter), Transcendental Etude no. 11, indeed the Dante Sonata would be great, a very random choice that popped into my head just now is a transcription of Les Preludes (I think someone made a transcription for piano solo, and what a piece it must be!), or maybe Totentanz, Czardas Macabre, or....hmmm....that might be all I can think of for now, that mostly fit the criteria.

There's also the Bach-Busoni Chaccone, if you'd consider that Romantic. Dohnanyi wrote some Rhapsodies which are probably great, but I've never heard them. They might work. And, for that matter, Busoni wrote some (six) fine piano sonatinas, the most attractive of which is the Kammerfantasie on "Carmen." An interesting piece, to be sure. Worth looking into.

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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #14 on: October 26, 2005, 07:07:29 AM
Schumann Allegro op 8 in B minor might be good, it is around the same level of the pieces you have (I think).  It goes for around 9-11 mins on a variety of recordings I have.

Also you might like to try one of Schubert's Drei Klavierstucke these are good concert pieces, I am particularly fond of number 2 but all of them are excellent, it is performed around the 9-11 minute mark as well. nos 1 & 3 are a little shorter.

Dumka is good too!!

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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #15 on: October 26, 2005, 11:43:29 AM
Mendelssohn: Variation Serieuses (13 minutes)

oh come on its not that long. 10 minutes max.

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hmmm isle joyeuse? maybe not that long...

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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #16 on: October 26, 2005, 10:18:11 PM
Mendelssohn: Variation Serieuses (13 minutes)

Excellent choice.

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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #17 on: October 31, 2005, 08:03:58 PM
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Also you might like to try one of Schubert's Drei Klavierstucke these are good concert pieces, I am particularly fond of number 2 but all of them are excellent, it is performed around the 9-11 minute mark

Absolutely I agree, D946, No. 2. Great romantic theme, nice to hear at any time and still not overplayed.

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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #18 on: October 31, 2005, 08:51:46 PM
mendelssohn fantasy in f# minor? awesome awesome piece! shows off the fingers, maked the crowd laugh, cry, and everything in between....

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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #19 on: October 31, 2005, 10:13:40 PM
If you (amanfang) can find the sheet music to Thalberg's Robert le Diable paraphrase, you'd be set. I don't know about the sheet music, though.

I have the sheets if anybody's interested...
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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #20 on: October 31, 2005, 10:30:23 PM
I LOVE the mendelssohn f-sharp fantasy, but I played it last year.  So I can't really use it again.    Brahmsian, can you send me the Thalberg piece? I'll take a look at it.  Although my guess is that it's probably too over my head.
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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #21 on: October 31, 2005, 11:10:04 PM
I have the sheets if anybody's interested...
plz send it to me!!
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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #22 on: November 01, 2005, 12:51:06 AM
I LOVE the mendelssohn f-sharp fantasy, but I played it last year.  So I can't really use it again.    Brahmsian, can you send me the Thalberg piece? I'll take a look at it.  Although my guess is that it's probably too over my head.

Well, again, I haven't seen the music, but going from what I HAVE seen from Thalberg and from what I've heard (that is, the recording of the Robert le Diable paraphrase, which I can send you as well if you'd like), it really wouldn't be all that more difficult than some of the other works mentioned above; I wouldn't be surprised to find it at a upper intermediate level. In fact, it's probably not too different from the Mendelssohn Fantasy technique-wise...but I could be wrong.

I would also really appreciate the sheet music, Brahmsian. I'm thinking of playing it myself at the end of November (provided I can get the sheets, lol).

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Re: 1 mvmt Romantic work
Reply #23 on: November 01, 2005, 05:25:50 PM
Schumann: Abegg Variations, Papillons
Liszt: Spanish Rhapsody, Hungarian Rhapsodies 2, 9, 19, Mephisto waltzes (no. 3 would be a good and rare choice).
Mendelssohn: Variations Seriuses, Rondo Cappricio.
Tchaikovsky: Theme and variations in F op. 19 no. 4 ( I really like this one.)

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