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Offline casparma

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big jump on both hands....
on: October 27, 2005, 10:40:31 AM
How do play this quickly?

for eg, g, (g+b)octave higher, g  (left)

and

g, d(2nd one above g), g    (rght)

both left and right count 3 simultaneously.

How do you play this repeatedly and quickly?

it is hard for me, because I cant check check both hands for the jump...

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Re: big jump on both hands....
Reply #1 on: October 27, 2005, 11:52:17 AM
Practise slowly at first, then gradually build up the speed. You will notice that after practising this way your hands will "know" the exact distance to jump, without you having to look at both or even one hand.

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Re: big jump on both hands....
Reply #2 on: October 27, 2005, 04:16:09 PM


Alright, my description is abit wrong..

the centre measure is what I was refering to...


please help

Offline abell88

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Re: big jump on both hands....
Reply #3 on: October 28, 2005, 01:10:02 AM
Feel the black keys as you practise, and use them to guide your fingers to the right places.

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Re: big jump on both hands....
Reply #4 on: October 28, 2005, 02:52:59 AM
The LH is easy... it is only a 10th from the low G to the higher B. Use 1 & 2 for the G & B.

The RH is a different story: The way to do large jumps is to make the lowest arc possible and memorize the feel. The jump is only an octave plus a 6th anyway, though I guess that could feel rather large.

(We had a prof. give a 30 minute demonstration on jumps using Xenakis' Evryali, where you have to jump multiple octaves at lightening speeds and he was able to pull it off perfectly every time, so I think his advice holds a lot of merit.)

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Re: big jump on both hands....
Reply #5 on: October 28, 2005, 09:42:47 AM
I find the octaves in the left hand difficult, at speed, in Baba Yaga (some hut with chicken legs or something for the English translation...) in Pictures at an Exhibition... Any advice?  :-[
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Re: big jump on both hands....
Reply #6 on: October 28, 2005, 04:45:11 PM


Alright, my description is abit wrong..

the centre measure is what I was refering to...


please help
What is that piece?

Offline timland

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Re: big jump on both hands....
Reply #7 on: October 28, 2005, 09:03:30 PM
When leaping to a single high or low key with 5, lightly touch the octave closest to the center of the keyboard with your thumb first. Your hand  knows what an octave span is already so if you think of touching (without playing) the octave closer to the center with your thumb, your 5 finger will end up on the correct key. If you do this all the time it becomes a habit and you'll be more sure of your leaps.

As you're playing the lower F in your right hand with 1, have 5 touching the D  above, then on the key surface quicky exchange 5 for 1 and your 5 will then end up on the D an octave above. The exchange and play of the key  should be one quick motion.  Reverse everything to get back to F.

Practice without looking at the keyboard.

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Re: big jump on both hands....
Reply #8 on: November 02, 2005, 01:00:17 AM
Notice with the LH jump it's just a span of a 10th.  When you play the bottom G with your LH do so with a stretched out hand.  The stretch helps you measure key distances more easily.  After you play the G your hand is already stretched out ready to play the G-B, and can be done so with minimal hand travel. 

With the RH, I'd suggest preparing fo the high D by looking at it before you need to play it.  Eg: while playing the F you should be already looking towards the D, and this will improve your accuracy.  In time you will need to look less as your fingers will begin to remember the jumping distance. 
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