Virtuosity

[rimv2]

That topic about adult begginers never being able to be virtuosos made meh start to think.

In a book of Grieg poetic tone poems the editor descibes parts of a certain piece as virtuosic. It didnt really seem that way. So ah then wondered, what actually makes a piece virtuosic.

And now ah want to hear you alls thoughts.

What pieces do youz all believe to be virtuosic and why?

There's no need to list things like Rach 3 and Feux Follets - such is obvious

[rimv2]

Would any of youz consider the ballades in d or g minor by brahms op 10 virtuosic

[ronde_des_sylphes]

To partly answer your question, I think virtuosity is to some extent related to the aural impact (even, sometimes, the visual impact) that the piece makes on an audience.  I think there are pieces which are obviously difficult, pieces in which the difficulties are not readily apparent to an audience, and pieces which are not really that hard, but which can be made to sound virtuosic.

Off the top of my head, an example: if the Chopin G min Prelude is played particularly agitato, it will sound pretty virtuosic, despite not being especially difficult.

[rimv2]

To partly answer your question, I think virtuosity is to some extent related to the aural impact (even, sometimes, the visual impact) that the piece makes on an audience.  I think there are pieces which are obviously difficult, pieces in which the difficulties are not readily apparent to an audience, and pieces which are not really that hard, but which can be made to sound virtuosic.

Off the top of my head, an example: if the Chopin G min Prelude is played particularly agitato, it will sound pretty virtuosic, despite not being especially difficult.

What about the d minor ?

[ronde_des_sylphes]

I would say the D min qualifies; it's clearly harder than the G min, of course.  And it makes an impact also.

[bearzinthehood]

Virtuosity has more to do with how well you play than what you can play.

[rimv2]

Virtuosity has more to do with how well you play than what you can play.

Ah

So then the question should be:

What pieces do you all believe to be virtuosic when played well?

Which leads to:

What, to you all, qualifies a performance to be considered well played?

[fra ungdomsdagene]

Virtuosity is "easy and effortless playing"

Fra