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Offline Tash

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sonata recommendations
on: November 27, 2005, 10:32:45 PM
i'm looking for a potential sonata that's approximately 12 minutes long...so that alone eliminates a whole lot- i was thinking of beethoven's op.90 in e minor, but then thought maybe i could venture out of beethoven and try some mozart, or haydn, or maybe even some other random!
anyway feel free to suggest anything, nothing to easy, nothing too difficult, like mid-highish beethoven sonata level would be good:) oh and if you didn't notice we're thinking around classical composers... thanks!
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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #1 on: November 27, 2005, 10:44:47 PM
mozart D major K284 (i play it now) K310 K330 K576 (difficult)
Beethoven op.78,90 (maybe also op.28)
or op.31 (all three of them)
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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #2 on: November 27, 2005, 11:10:54 PM
I'm a fan of Haydn sonatas... But there are so many good ones to choose from! Give some help here. Prefer minor or major mood? Fun, energetic, peaceful, intense? I'm thinkin' that if you're at the mid-high level Beethoven level, most Haydn shouldn't be too much of a challenge. Hard for me to say though, I'm more in the easier-Haydn level of playing.

Off the top of my head, here's two suggestions:

Sonata in D, hobXVI:37 - first mvmnt's pretty bouncy and fun. Second movement's my favorite, an intense, moody, thick textured Largo sostenuto. 3rd mvmnt's is Presto ma non troppo, a good balance between cheery peaceful and drama, by my tastes. ~11 mins.

Sonata in A, hobXVI:30 - two movements. First movement has some pretty rapid figurations, tricky articulation. Good variety of themes, keeps a good forward driving motion. It's the development I love, very interesting. He doesn't repeat the development, but it's so good leaves ya wanting more, then wraps it up with a completely different adagio, which I love. Second movement is a Tempo de minuetto set of variations. Pretty calm, entertaining. Not intense, just chilled. Some of the variations sound like a lot of fun to play. ~13 mins.

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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #3 on: November 27, 2005, 11:16:53 PM
Haydn hobXVI:32 in B minor
Mozart Sonata K. 280
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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #4 on: November 29, 2005, 02:34:04 AM
Classical: a Clementi sonata
Early Romantic: Weber, Sonatas 1 or 4

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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #5 on: November 29, 2005, 03:14:35 AM
Sorabji - Sonata #5, Opus Archimagicum

Hehe... just kidding.

I personally think the Beethoven is a good choice. I really love that piece. And there is also Beethoven's Op. 78 sonata in F# Major, Fur Therese, which is about 9-12 minutes, depending on the speed you play it.

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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #6 on: November 29, 2005, 03:55:23 AM
I really like Haydn's Sonata in B minor HOBXVI:32, thats definately around the level you are talking about and without the repeats would fall into the time frame you are talking about.

Well worth a listen!

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Offline Kassaa

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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #7 on: November 29, 2005, 06:48:19 AM
Are you talking about complete sonatas or only the first movement?

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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #8 on: November 29, 2005, 04:39:16 PM
haydn is a treasure trove
try  no 58 in C

          54 inG

          59 in Eb

           60 in C

           62 in Eb
Also 38 inF  (nice slow mvt),  49 csharp min,31  Ab,


Mozart  D k311 is heady too .

         
           

Offline shasta

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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #9 on: November 29, 2005, 04:53:36 PM
Hi Tash, take a look at the sonatas by:

Albeniz <-- any of them
Clara Schumann <-- the G minor
Fanny Hensel <-- the C minor
MacDowell <-- my fav is his Eroica Sonata - inspired by the Legends of King Arthur
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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #10 on: November 29, 2005, 05:05:08 PM
Prokofief no.1
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Offline JCarey

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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #11 on: November 29, 2005, 07:39:25 PM
Hi Tash, take a look at the sonatas by:

Albeniz <-- any of them
Clara Schumann <-- the G minor
Fanny Hensel <-- the C minor
MacDowell <-- my fav is his Eroica Sonata - inspired by the Legends of King Arthur


I'm not familiar with most of those, however, I can tell you right away that the MacDowell (one of my favorites) is much longer than 12 minutes.

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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #12 on: November 29, 2005, 09:59:09 PM
Janacek's superb Sonata '1.X.1905' is a compact work.

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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #13 on: November 29, 2005, 10:06:33 PM
love janacek too

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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #14 on: November 29, 2005, 10:50:41 PM
scriabin sonata...

seriously i'm obssessed with scriabin these days...or this could be just as a result of melancholic destructive mood due to constanly raining and freezing temperatures here
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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #15 on: November 29, 2005, 10:55:49 PM
medtner sonata reminisca, or something

a bit longer, but awesome

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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #16 on: November 29, 2005, 11:03:36 PM
think there are a lot of people on this forum who don't understand the meaning of the word classical!!!


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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #17 on: November 30, 2005, 10:01:40 AM
Lol i was just thinking the same thing when i saw prokofiev! man i do really want to play the prokofiev sonatas except for now i'm really looking at classical, but thanks for all the suggestions anyway! actually about the b minor haydn sonata, i tried that earlier this year when my teacher was having panic attacks about my beethoven and it was ok but i stuck with it for about 2 days! haha, but anyway, it's good i've now officially found myself a new teacher for next year who is actually being good and recommending me pieces (cos as you can tell i really don't have a clue) and i'm starting on the haydn e minor (Hob.34) which i'm quite liking. so cheers to haydn, and thanks for all the suggestions, i will keep them in mind for future thoughts!

you're all champs!!

ps. we are talking about the entire sonata kassaa
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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #18 on: November 30, 2005, 01:45:38 PM
the e minor is lovely - brendel is exemplary in this - 1st movement is like a symphonic allegro, lots of scope for imagining instrumentation. Hope you enjoy it! :)

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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #19 on: November 30, 2005, 11:42:47 PM
Lol i was just thinking the same thing when i saw prokofiev! man i do really want to play the prokofiev sonatas except for now i'm really looking at classical, but thanks for all the suggestions anyway! actually about the b minor haydn sonata, i tried that earlier this year when my teacher was having panic attacks about my beethoven and it was ok but i stuck with it for about 2 days! haha, but anyway, it's good i've now officially found myself a new teacher for next year who is actually being good and recommending me pieces (cos as you can tell i really don't have a clue) and i'm starting on the haydn e minor (Hob.34) which i'm quite liking. so cheers to haydn, and thanks for all the suggestions, i will keep them in mind for future thoughts!

you're all champs!!

ps. we are talking about the entire sonata kassaa

The Haydn E minor is a goody!! I think it was my first 'whole sonata'!!!! Enjoy the alberti bass in the third movement!!

cheers

dmk
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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #20 on: December 02, 2005, 04:04:28 PM
les adieux beethoven
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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #21 on: December 03, 2005, 05:19:33 AM
The Beethoven Op. 90 is pretty much around 12 minutes long. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who has small hands though, I have to execute the alberti bass as quick leaps...

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Re: sonata recommendations
Reply #22 on: December 04, 2005, 09:11:40 PM
or try somthing more obscure like

dussek sonata op.61 (elegie harmonique) or his sonata op.77 (invocation)
i can send any of those 2 sontas


wolfl sonata in c minor but i think you'd have some trouble finding a score

or any of cramer sonatas
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