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Offline crazy for ivan moravec

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liszt la leggierrezza
« on: December 05, 2005, 12:04:19 AM »
my first recital. wasnt really happy with this one. i used to play lots of wrong notes... well, not that i don't struggle now. but in comparison, yes, it was dirty.

i thought hard before i decided to post this, hahaha.
but coments are most welcome!
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Re: liszt la leggierrezza
«Reply #1 on: December 07, 2005, 03:05:52 PM »
a bit too slow for my taste and a bit too much pedal...but it was quite good!!!
Alfred Cortot's interpretation is my favourite...it's absolutely insane...
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Re: liszt la leggierrezza
«Reply #2 on: December 07, 2005, 07:01:30 PM »
how beautiful.  if i didn't know better - i'd say 'keep smokin'

do you want crit?  just a small one.  control on your trills.  but, since you say you're working it - sound really good anyway! i used to try to sort of shake my hand (quaver) to help myself with trills, but i think (i hope i am remembering right) my teacher suggested to just use a very minimal scissor kick with your fingers as though you are using them as legs of a swimmer and trying to get somewhere really fast.  the swimmer idea is mine.

for my own stability in practicing, sometimes i practice on a desk with my thumb down to hold the hand stable (trilling with 2 and 3).  this is purely my own wierdness coming out here.  i don't know what fingers you are trilling.

Offline crazy for ivan moravec

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Re: liszt la leggierrezza
«Reply #3 on: December 08, 2005, 02:24:34 AM »
a bit too slow for my taste and a bit too much pedal...


you are definitely right about that. :) at that time, i also wanted it faster but technical limitations suck! i just cud not.

and it's not even light enough to say it's leggierrezza.

but thanks for the comments and suggestions, guys! :)
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Re: liszt la leggierrezza
«Reply #4 on: April 08, 2010, 04:49:23 PM »
I don't think it was too slow at all. Sheesh, how fash do you expect him to play this? Any faster would be killing so much of the natural wind-song grace of this piece. Perhaps a little pedal heavy but still, I would love to play this piece as well as you. Was the ossia near the end just too difficult to play or did you just choose to not take it?

Offline crazy for ivan moravec

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Re: liszt la leggierrezza
«Reply #5 on: April 08, 2010, 04:54:23 PM »
interesting that you replied to a post of mine 5 years ago almost! but thanks for the comments. Now you make me wanna review it and play the ossia! At that time, it was difficult. Maybe now I can do it. :)
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Re: liszt la leggierrezza
«Reply #6 on: April 09, 2010, 02:59:43 PM »
Hi crazy,

Somehow I missed this post when you put it up in 2005.  I would have been snowbound in December, so don't know how it happened.  ;D  Anyway, I like your performance very much, even though it's a bit slower tempo than customary.  You more than make up for that with the lyricism, drama, and accuracy you display in your interpretation.  You adhered to a cardinal rule of performance, and that is never to exceed one's own technical limitations (which we all have in one way or another).  Your fine recording attests to the fact that there are sometimes other avenues to successfully playing a difficult piece such as "La Leggierrezza".  Wonderful playing!  

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Re: liszt la leggierrezza
«Reply #7 on: April 09, 2010, 09:50:01 PM »
crazy,

I actually could use some advice on this piece. I am having a lot of trouble with the delicatamente section on page three, synching the right chromatic runs with the left hand is giving me hell. any advice? Also, to reiterate, I think the tempo is fine and lends itself to your expression.

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Re: liszt la leggierrezza
«Reply #8 on: January 17, 2011, 03:59:09 PM »
interesting that you replied to a post of mine 5 years ago almost! but thanks for the comments. Now you make me wanna review it and play the ossia! At that time, it was difficult. Maybe now I can do it. :)

 I didn't think it was too slow either with maybe the exception of a measure or two.  Maybe just too much rubato for me.  And I'm delighted that you didn't take the ossia (I'm assuming we're talking about those 3rds)  I don't think they fit as well musically and I'm tired of hearing them.

Offline crazy for ivan moravec

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Re: liszt la leggierrezza
«Reply #9 on: February 07, 2011, 02:03:22 AM »
Hi crazy,

Somehow I missed this post when you put it up in 2005.  I would have been snowbound in December, so don't know how it happened.  ;D  Anyway, I like your performance very much, even though it's a bit slower tempo than customary.  You more than make up for that with the lyricism, drama, and accuracy you display in your interpretation.  You adhered to a cardinal rule of performance, and that is never to exceed one's own technical limitations (which we all have in one way or another).  Your fine recording attests to the fact that there are sometimes other avenues to successfully playing a difficult piece such as "La Leggierrezza".  Wonderful playing! 



thank you for your kind words!
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Re: liszt la leggierrezza
«Reply #10 on: February 07, 2011, 02:09:26 AM »
crazy,

I actually could use some advice on this piece. I am having a lot of trouble with the delicatamente section on page three, synching the right chromatic runs with the left hand is giving me hell. any advice? Also, to reiterate, I think the tempo is fine and lends itself to your expression.

wish i could help in detail... this recording was in 2003! i suggest listening well to each hand, and try practicing it like a chopin nocturne, singing each note. then lighten up the sound and put tempo up a notch each time. the synching will come naturally. hope that helps.
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Re: liszt la leggierrezza
«Reply #11 on: February 07, 2011, 02:33:22 AM »
I think you trill better than most. Bravo. This one's in my collection...
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Re: liszt la leggierrezza
«Reply #12 on: February 19, 2011, 02:00:43 AM »
I have listened to this piece so many times as played by other artists and
frankly you played it very well.  (you must be a perfectionist not to like this...) ;D
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Re: liszt la leggierrezza
«Reply #13 on: February 19, 2011, 05:39:48 AM »
I have listened to this piece so many times as played by other artists and
frankly you played it very well.  (you must be a perfectionist not to like this...) ;D


Thanks. I think that would be a perfect piece for Enzo! How many chopin etudes has he studied now?
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Re: liszt la leggierrezza
«Reply #14 on: March 01, 2011, 11:31:36 PM »
A beautiful piece of music.