So do you know your stuff? (music terms)

[lagin]

Guess who needs a music dictionary?!

Okay, in Ravel's Jeux d'eau, what do these mean?  Tres doux.............Tres rapide (very fast?), ...................Un peu plus lent gu'au debut......................and at the end, san ralentir?

And it's in E Major, and I know it modulates throughout, but is there any really big MAIN ones I should know of?   And is it just me, or does the beginning bit return again later?

ANNNNNNNNNNNDDDD

in La Campanella, what does  "ma sempre ben marcato il tema"  mean?  but always with........?

Okay, for each question or term or phrase of terms you decipher, you get one point.  Whose going to win?  Please win soon, because my exam is Friday.  Thanks guys.

[cfortunato]

"Un peu plus lent gu'au debut"

Do not eat skunk at the beginning of lent.

"Tres rapide" is very fast.  I think the last one means "always mark the time"

[arensky]

Guess who needs a music dictionary?!

Okay, in Ravel's Jeux d'eau, what do these mean?  Tres doux.............Tres rapide (very fast?), ...................Un peu plus lent gu'au debut......................and at the end, san ralentir?

And it's in E Major, and I know it modulates throughout, but is there any really big MAIN ones I should know of?   And is it just me, or does the beginning bit return again later?

Very sweetly. Very rapid. A little slower than the begining. Without slowing down.

Yes the begining does return.

in La Campanella, what does  "ma sempre ben marcato il tema"  mean?  but always with........?
                                                                                                                                         

....but always bring out the theme.

Okay, for each question or term or phrase of terms you decipher, you get one point.  Whose going to win?  Please win soon, because my exam is Friday.  Thanks guys.

I have 6 points! 

[bearzinthehood]

My French is a bit rusty, but fortunately Arensky answered all of them before I finished writing my post. 

BTW, tres doux could also mean very softly.  Also, I believe qu'au is correct as opposed to gu'au.

[lagin]

Yes Arkensky definately wins!  Somebody give him a new car or Steinway, okay?  One more for you Arkensky, could you ellaborate for me a bit about the first part in Jeux d'eau returning?  Does it return more than once?  Is this is some sort of form like Rondo, or Sonata allegro?  Oh, and does anybody know anything about the modulations yet?  Like I know in a sonata allegro form, the first theme would be the tonic, the second the dominate, or in ABA form, the B section would be the dominate or relative, minor/major.  Is there some key structure in this piece that I should be aware of?  Thanks guys. 

[arensky]

Yes Arkensky definately wins!  Somebody give him a new car or Steinway, okay? 

drool..... ...... I already have a Steinway, two would be nice, it's actually the car ( 6 cylinder truck or SUV please)  I really need right now!

One more for you Arkensky, could you ellaborate for me a bit about the first part in Jeux d'eau returning?  Does it return more than once?  Is this is some sort of form like Rondo, or Sonata allegro?  Oh, and does anybody know anything about the modulations yet?  Like I know in a sonata allegro form, the first theme would be the tonic, the second the dominate, or in ABA form, the B section would be the dominate or relative, minor/major.  Is there some key structure in this piece that I should be aware of?  Thanks guys. 

Hey I will get back on this, I'm GIVIING and WRITING tests and CORRECTING papers, and a quick Jeux d'Eau analysis requires some thought and review; in about a day, maybe two...

[lagin]

Hey don't worry about if you're busy.  My exam will be over tomorrow anyway.  There are like around 40 works to learn and they will ask for about 5 on the test, so my chances are good of not having it anyway.  And they always let you choose from a select few, so if I know all the works except that one, then I'm still safe.  Thanks for all your help though.

[pianistimo]

hey, i was the one that asked for the car and the steinway (*hurridly answers while arensky grades papers)

ok.  i did have to use answers.com  - i vaguely remembered the quote that ravel wrote on the piece: "river god laughing as the water tickles him" - but had to look up the form.  it seems that it is "in the manner of the movement of a sonata - without, however, subjecting itself to the classical tonal plan."  that's what throws people. 

ravel was a student of faure at the time and dedicated the piece to him.  (it appeared in 1901 - and was inspired by the noise of water). 

[pianalex]

..and owes a conscious debt to liszt's 'jeux d'eaux a la villa d'este'..