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Offline fuel925

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John Field CD... I'm Confused!
on: December 16, 2005, 11:32:07 AM
I am looking to buy a CD off someone. It is titled as such:

JOHN FIELD

Nocturnes
Nocturnes from John Field (1782-1837)
Performing artist:
Bart van Oort, fortepiano
(Broadwood 1823)


Heres the front cover:

The track list is as follows:

Disc 1:

  1. Nocturne Op.9 No 1 in b flat minor     
  2. Nocturne Op.9 No 2 in e flat major    
  3.Nocturne Op.9 No 3 in b major    
  4. Nocturne Op.72No 1 in e minor    
  5. Nocturne Op.15 No 1 in f major    
  6. Nocturne Op.15No 2 in f sharp major    
  7. Nocturne Op.15 No 3 in g major    
  8. Nocturne Op.32 No 1 in b major    
  9. Nocturne Op.32 No 2 in a flat major     
  10. Nocturne Op.62 No 1 in b major    
  11. Nocturne Op.62 No 2 ine major    
  12. Nocturen in C sharp Op Posth

Disc 2:

  1. No. 1, Molto moderato, in E flat major      3'54
  2. No. 2, Moderato e molto espressivo, in C minor      3'37
  3. No. 3, in A flat major      4'12
  4. No. 4, Poco adagio, in A major      5'54
  5. No. 5, Andantino, in B flat major      3'18
  6. No. 6, Andante, in F major      4'42
  7. No. 7, Moderato, in C major      5'02
  8. No. 8, Andante, in A major      4'25
  9. No. 9, Andantino, in E flat major      3'37
  10. No. 10, Adagio, in E minor      2'41
  11. No. 11, Moderato, in E flat major      5'14
  12. No. 12, Lento, in G major      2'23
  13. No. 13, Lento, in D minor      3'02
  14. No. 16, Molto moderato, in F major      4'37
  15. No. 17, Lento, in E major


Now as far as I am aware, John Field composed 16 Nocturnes. As you can see, the first disc only lists 12. I don't even know what the pieces on the second disc are, it doesn't actually specify. If anyone can shed any light on this I would be grateful, thanks!

Offline arensky

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Re: John Field CD... I'm Confused!
Reply #1 on: December 16, 2005, 04:23:51 PM
The disk I numbers are Chopin Nocturne op. numbers, so that's probably what they are. I'm not familiar with the Field op. numbers but those are probably the Field Nocturnes. I always thought he wrote 15 Nocturnes but I could be wrong. Listen to them, that should solve the confusion. Broadwood 1823 refers to the manufacturer and age of the piano, it's a Broadwood piano made in 1823, very cool; it doesn't sound like a modern instrument, this is the sort of piano Field and Chopin used. I would get it, a cool addition to your collection!  :D
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Re: John Field CD... I'm Confused!
Reply #2 on: December 16, 2005, 05:23:08 PM
The disk I numbers are Chopin Nocturne op. numbers, so that's probably what they are. I'm not familiar with the Field op. numbers but those are probably the Field Nocturnes. I always thought he wrote 15 Nocturnes but I could be wrong. Listen to them, that should solve the confusion. Broadwood 1823 refers to the manufacturer and age of the piano, it's a Broadwood piano made in 1823, very cool; it doesn't sound like a modern instrument, this is the sort of piano Field and Chopin used. I would get it, a cool addition to your collection!  :D
Very helpful, thanks! Now that you've said it, I can see that the first disc is what appears to be the Chopin nocturnes. Its weird how the supplied cover doesn't mention chopin though.

I agree that it would be a great addition to my collection, especially as its performed on a fortepiano :) I think I will get it, and i'll post back when i've listened to it and found out exactly whats what.

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Re: John Field CD... I'm Confused!
Reply #3 on: December 16, 2005, 09:08:10 PM
Perhaps you might like the sheets as well.

There appears to 18.
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Re: John Field CD... I'm Confused!
Reply #4 on: December 17, 2005, 08:06:15 AM
Perhaps you might like the sheets as well.

There appears to 18.
Nice!! Thanks a lot ;D

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Re: John Field CD... I'm Confused!
Reply #5 on: December 18, 2005, 11:59:42 PM
Thalbergmad
Are you great!!! :D

Thank you a lot !

One more question: Do you know the sonatas for piano of Field?

Could you share with us? ;)

I think he composed four works buy I donīt very sure? Could you confirm it, please?



Thank you for your time.

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Re: John Field CD... I'm Confused!
Reply #6 on: December 19, 2005, 09:07:45 PM
Not sure if this is the lot, but there are 4.

Enjoy

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Re: John Field CD... I'm Confused!
Reply #7 on: December 23, 2005, 06:11:05 PM
Thanks you Thalbergmad.

I am astonished. I was trying to find this works too much time, and in a moment I have the four sonates!!! :D

Thanks and happy holidays ;)

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Re: John Field CD... I'm Confused!
Reply #8 on: January 09, 2006, 08:23:54 PM
Just an update on this topic, I bought and received the CD. The first disc is indeed Chopin's nocturnes, performed on a Pleyel 1842. The second disc is Fields nocturnes performed on a Broadwood 1823.

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Re: John Field CD... I'm Confused!
Reply #9 on: January 09, 2006, 08:28:50 PM
I don't think i have ever heard the Field Nocturnes.

I will be interested to hear what you think.
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