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Offline fishy92

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Starting on Fantasie Impromptu
on: December 16, 2005, 11:22:51 PM
Hello,

I'm new to the forums. ;D
I'm only 13 years old and been practicing on the piano for about 6 years. Never had a teacher never will. I was wondering if I'm ready to start the Fantasie Impromptu. I just recently finished Mozart's Sonata K.331 3rd Mov. "Turkish March" Anyways just leave a message with some words of wisdom  :)

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Re: Starting on Fantasie Impromptu
Reply #1 on: December 16, 2005, 11:45:08 PM
Greetings fishy92.

Why no teacher?. If you had a teacher, you could be properly advised if you are ready.

There is a bit of a jump between the Mozart and the Chopin. You might be ready to start it, but maybe not to finish it.

There have been many threads on this awful piece of music. If you use the search function you can see what other people have written.

Good luck.
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Re: Starting on Fantasie Impromptu
Reply #2 on: December 16, 2005, 11:54:05 PM
Greetings fishy92.

Why no teacher?. If you had a teacher, you could be properly advised if you are ready.

There is a bit of a jump between the Mozart and the Chopin. You might be ready to start it, but maybe not to finish it.

There have been many threads on this awful piece of music. If you use the search function you can see what other people have written.

Good luck.
Awful as in bad music?

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Re: Starting on Fantasie Impromptu
Reply #3 on: December 17, 2005, 01:51:12 AM
Hi! I'm 13 as well, and have been studying piano for 4 yrs. A few months ago I started Fantasie Impromptu. I originally thought it was easy, but when it was heard by my new teacher, he told me that, although I had the technique to play it, I wasn't being consistent. Under his guidance, I put the piece away. He has told me that I will be playing it formally in about 2-3 months.

In other words, this piece is deceptively hard, and unless you are critiqued by an impartial listener, you may not realize your mistakes. Don't start it now without a teacher. You may have the technique to play it, but chances are your performance of it will be lacking. If you, as you say, will never get a teacher, then you should at least wait. Alla Turca to Fantasie Impromptu is, as thalbergmad said, a big jump.

As for the "awful" comment, you'll find that a plethora of posters on this forum are ardent haters of Fantasie Impromptu. It is is said that Chopin himself wanted to burn it. In addition, it is overplayed, and worse, badly played. I personally enjoy the piece when it is performed well, but that could just be my lack of experience  ;D.

Good luck!
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Re: Starting on Fantasie Impromptu
Reply #4 on: December 17, 2005, 01:53:57 AM
There have been many threads on this awful piece of music. If you use the search function you can see what other people have written.

Good luck.


Here's one of the most popular : 

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,4177.msg38591.html#msg38591


m1469  :)
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Re: Starting on Fantasie Impromptu
Reply #5 on: December 17, 2005, 01:55:54 AM

Here's one of the most popular :

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,4177.msg38591.html#msg38591


m1469 :)

You know, that thread was so entertaining, it was the catalyst for my joining this forum.
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Re: Starting on Fantasie Impromptu
Reply #6 on: December 17, 2005, 01:59:56 AM
You know, that thread was so entertaining...


That's probably part of the reason it also got locked  ;)
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Re: Starting on Fantasie Impromptu
Reply #7 on: December 17, 2005, 06:51:47 AM
Hello,

I'm new to the forums. ;D
I'm only 13 years old and been practicing on the piano for about 6 years. Never had a teacher never will. I was wondering if I'm ready to start the Fantasie Impromptu. I just recently finished Mozart's Sonata K.331 3rd Mov. "Turkish March" Anyways just leave a message with some words of wisdom  :)

Go ahead, give it shot! If it's too hard, you can always come back to it when you're ready. But why no teacher? Not all of us are bad and evil  and maybe there's one out there you can get along with. I know what it is, you have been studying and teaching yourself for so long that you feel they will impose a foreign system on you and make you learn "correctly". You need to find someone who will respect your acheivements and build on them, not rip them down and make you start over. Hopefully you can find this person, I am already very interested to hear you play, I have had several students like you who were  self taught, and came to me because I was open minded and not hide bound by tradition and orthodoxy. Perhaps you could post the Rondo alla Turca in the Audition Room? Then we can help, you're obviously seeking advice...
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Re: Starting on Fantasie Impromptu
Reply #8 on: December 17, 2005, 06:53:25 AM
this awful piece of music.


Critics critics, jaded jaded....sigh  ::)
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Re: Starting on Fantasie Impromptu
Reply #9 on: December 18, 2005, 03:08:15 AM
You know, that thread was so entertaining, it was the catalyst for my joining this forum.

That was the best thread ever, when I first saw it, I thought it was a great joke, then i realized that it was real, I was like what?

i just finished turkish march, time for rach 3!

Here i come!!!!!

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Re: Starting on Fantasie Impromptu
Reply #10 on: December 18, 2005, 12:42:18 PM
Go ahead, give it shot! If it's too hard, you can always come back to it when you're ready. But why no teacher? Not all of us are bad and evil  and maybe there's one out there you can get along with. I know what it is, you have been studying and teaching yourself for so long that you feel they will impose a foreign system on you and make you learn "correctly". You need to find someone who will respect your acheivements and build on them, not rip them down and make you start over. Hopefully you can find this person, I am already very interested to hear you play, I have had several students like you who were  self taught, and came to me because I was open minded and not hide bound by tradition and orthodoxy. Perhaps you could post the Rondo alla Turca in the Audition Room? Then we can help, you're obviously seeking advice...

Arensky has an excellent point about teachers.  The trick is finding one that you can openly communicate with.  One who is flexible and is willing to help you reach your own goals and is not locked into a fixed "lesson plan" for all their students.  You should feel extreemly comfortable in their presence, and not be ashamed to ask anything.  When you find this person, your playing will likely improve much more. 
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Re: Starting on Fantasie Impromptu
Reply #11 on: December 18, 2005, 11:36:34 PM
That was the best thread ever, when I first saw it, I thought it was a great joke, then i realized that it was real, I was like what?

i just finished turkish march, time for rach 3!

Here i come!!!!!

Lol - i wonder whatever happened to breadboy? It says he hasn't been active since December 2004, so perhaps he realised he'd taken on too much and lost interest with the piano? I hope not! He was rather determined, or so it seemed.
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