Grande Polonaise (Polonaise in E) Op 22.

[chunlinzh]

Can someone please help? Please view the topic here:

https://www.gamingforce.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16221

[allchopin]

Whats the question?  How about not sending me somewhere else, since you are asking for some help....

Anyway, if I understood, you dont understand an 8va.  Theres only an 8va in measure 5, and yes, you play this an octave up.  

About the Andante Spianato, this is a smaller piece that prelude's the Grand Polonaise- it is essentially a different piece.  Generally they are played together, back to back, but they are two separate entities that simply were composed to be played sequentialy (for instance, Chopin's Etudes Op. 10 #3 and #4).

Btw, it's in E flat

[thracozaag]

[Btw, it's in E flat[/quote]


you mean G-major. heh.

[allchopin]

No I mean Eb. heh

[thracozaag]

No I mean Eb. heh

it's called a joke.   Just like an unamed faculty member at Jailyard calling the 2nd Scherzo in D flat major, or the 2nd ballade in A minor, or the Fantasy in A Flat Major.

[NetherMagic]

i have no idea wut you guys or chunli are talkin about :-/

[allchopin]

What?  How was that a joke?  Either that was extremely esoteric or you are inept at telling jokes.

[chunlinzh]

Whats the question?  How about not sending me somewhere else, since you are asking for some help....

Anyway, if I understood, you dont understand an 8va.  Theres only an 8va in measure 5, and yes, you play this an octave up.  

About the Andante Spianato, this is a smaller piece that prelude's the Grand Polonaise- it is essentially a different piece.  Generally they are played together, back to back, but they are two separate entities that simply were composed to be played sequentialy (for instance, Chopin's Etudes Op. 10 #3 and #4).

Btw, it's in E flat

Do you just have to play it fast or something? I play the fast as I can and I didn't sound like the recording.

Of course there is Legerire on bottom of it, not sure what to do with that, and those >>> looking things.

And not sure if there's anything else to it.

[allchopin]

Youre going to have to give me something coherent so I can fix the problem- I dont even know what youre talking about.  And why are you playing the Grand Polonaise Brillant when you have never seen accents before? (>>>'s)

[chunlinzh]

https://chopin.greatnow.com/part.bmp
(if the link doesn't seem to work, go to https://chopin.greatnow.com/ then from there, go to https://chopin.greatnow.com/part.bmp)

That is the measure. There are some predefined flats:

A, B, and E

[thracozaag]

What?  How was that a joke?  Either that was extremely esoteric or you are inept at telling jokes.

 Clearly, it's the former, and I'm sorely disappointed, seeing your moniker, how you don't "get" it.  

[allchopin]

So what is it? Why would I have heard of this?

[thracozaag]

Just look at the pieces in question, and you'll figure it out....(hopefully)....

[chunlinzh]

By looking at the measure, how do you play the right hand part?

[allchopin]

Which measure?
----Still dont get it- the Fantasy I get is the relative major key of Ab instead of  F minor, but the others dont have this in common.

[thracozaag]

Which measure?
----Still dont get it- the Fantasy I get is the relative major key of Ab instead of  F minor, but the others dont have this in common.

 Actually, they do.  The 2nd Scherzo's middle section is in Dflat, and ends in Dflat.  All the stormy episodes in the 2nd Ballade are in A-minor, and the coda is in a minor.

[chunlinzh]

Which measure?
----Still dont get it- the Fantasy I get is the relative major key of Ab instead of  F minor, but the others dont have this in common.

https://chopin.greatnow.com/part.bmp
(if the link doesn't seem to work, go to https://chopin.greatnow.com/ then from there, go to https://chopin.greatnow.com/part.bmp)

That is the measure. There are some predefined flats:

A, B, and E


I saved the measure as a picture file.

It's the 4th measure of the 3rd PIANOFORTE line on the 4th page of GROSSE BRILLANTE POLONAISE FUR DAS PIANOFORTE MIT BEGLEITUNG DES ORCHESTERS MIT VORAUSGEHENDEM ANDANTE SPIANATO FUR DAS PIANOFORTE

[allchopin]

Your links are dead, but I assume you mean the measure with the descending grace note thirds.  I would use my pinky on the grace notes, then 2&4, then thumb.  For the last beat (4 sixteenths) do  pinky grace note with 2&4 third, then  thumb, then 2&4 and then for the outer interval, 1&5.  I dunno if this is good up to speed though.

[chunlinzh]

What are grace notes? I don't know the piano terms in english very well:\

And how would you play the descending  8va after this measure? It is very like this measure.

And can you log on AIM? my AIM is PrudensOptimus