Grade this Schubert impromptu

[acha114]

Could someone grade Schubert Impromptu op 90 no 4 in A flat major (ABRSM or Trinity grade)? I would like to play it someday and want to know how difficult it really is.

[allthumbs]

I'm not familiar with ABRSM, however Royal Conservatory of Music (Canada) has this piece listed in the Grade 10 Romantic Repertoire requirement section. RCM has 10 grades and an Associate level (ARCT).


Cheers

allthumbs

[llamaman]

10? The score looks more like 8 or 9. Grade 10 RCM is about Grade 7 or 8 ABRSM.

[pianorama]

I'm not familiar with ABRSM, however Royal Conservatory of Music (Canada) has this piece listed in the Grade 10 Romantic Repertoire requirement section. RCM has 10 grades and an Associate level (ARCT).


Cheers

allthumbs

You are thinking of Impromptu in E flat major, Opus 90, no. 2, I think.

[verywellmister]

Ab impromptu, eh?  Probably 7 or 8.  If you mean the eb impromptu, it is probably beyond Abrsm.  I find their level 8 selections to be rather easy.

[canucks13]

You are thinking of Impromptu in E flat major, Opus 90, no. 2, I think.

nope, op 90 nos. 2 and 4 as well as op 142 nos. 3 and 4 are all grade 10 rcm

[pianorama]

nope, op 90 nos. 2 and 4 as well as op 142 nos. 3 and 4 are all grade 10 rcm

I'm looking at the listings right now, and I only see 1 Impromptu. Canuck13, do you happen to live in Vancouver or N. Vancouver or anywhere nearbye? (Surrey, Richmond, Delta, Port Moody, Port Coquitlam, etc.?)

[canucks13]

no, I live in Toronto. Anyways, I'm looking at the syllabus and there are 4 impromptus in the grade 10 list C

[pianorama]

no, I live in Toronto. Anyways, I'm looking at the syllabus and there are 4 impromptus in the grade 10 list C

I have re-read the list about 5 times now, and I still only see 1 impromptu. Are we looking at the same edition? They change listings every 10 years or something. Are you looking at a very old listing?

[nanabush]

i see four impromptus also...  op90 2 and 4.... and also op142  3 and 4

[pianorama]

Okay, I'll give you an entire list and see of they're the same.

 1.  Prelude and Fugue in D major, BWV 850, Bach
 2.  French Suite No. 5, BWV 816, 2nd and 3rd movements, Bach
 3.  Cappriccio sopra la lontananza del fratello deliettissimo, 4th, 5th, and 6th movements, Bach
 4.  Sonata in E major opus 14 no. 1, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd movements, Beethoven
 5.  Sonata in B minor Hob. XVl:32 1st, 2nd, and 3rd movements, Haydn
 6.  Sonata in E flat major K 282 (189g), Mozart
 7.Waltz in E minor, op. post., Chopin........

There are 44 songs in total but if you want the rest I will post them. It's just a pain in the butt to list them all.

[canucks13]

I think you're looking in the repertoire book. In the syllabus it lists the rest of the grade 10 repertoire that isn't in the book (youre right, there is only one in the repertoire book)

[pianorama]

You mean, it lists every song that is grade 10 level?

[canucks13]

You mean, it lists every song that is grade 10 level?

yes. (or at least, every piece grade 10 level that you are allowed to play in exams)

[pianorama]

Wow. Wouldn't that be a lot of songs? 100-200 different songs?

[canucks13]

yep

[nanabush]

There's like 20-50 pieces in each list in the syllabus,  you should get one, because often the pieces in the book are much [worse] than others in the syllabus, and by most of the pieces I mean List D/E

[acha114]

Is this syllabus that you are refering to available online? I would like to check out the syllabus for each grade if that is possible.

[mizzpeekaboo]

This Impromptu (A flat major) is fairly easy to play if you can read notes and recognize chord progressions.   HOWEVER....   to play it properly with good tone, speed, etc., well that's another story!  Give it a try, it's a beautiful piece.  When played properly, it should sound like a continuous waterfall.  You'll wanna use a circular motion with your wrists.  Hope this helps!

[pianorama]

Wow i was really stupid 3 years ago...
Please forgive me for sounding like an ass

[perfect_pitch]

10? The score looks more like 8 or 9. Grade 10 RCM is about Grade 7 or 8 ABRSM.

I don't know those standards of grading, but it would probably fit in the Hard Grade 6 AMEB... maybe an easy grade 7 possibly.

[nanabush]

Haha I remember this thread!  Wow ya that's an old post

It's funny that since then, there's been another overhaul to the repertoire for each grade.  I think that the Ab impromptu is still standing strong at a grade 10 level hehe...

A bit off topic, but it's also interesting to note that they've added the LRCM, a level beyond the ARCT.  I was wondering why they removed Scarbo from the ARCT syllabus, only to find that the entire Gaspard Suite is a selection for the LRCM.

[pianorama]

Haha I remember this thread!  Wow ya that's an old post

It's funny that since then, there's been another overhaul to the repertoire for each grade.  I think that the Ab impromptu is still standing strong at a grade 10 level hehe...

A bit off topic, but it's also interesting to note that they've added the LRCM, a level beyond the ARCT.  I was wondering why they removed Scarbo from the ARCT syllabus, only to find that the entire Gaspard Suite is a selection for the LRCM.

They did WHAT?
What what what I'm so confused now. I scoured through the gr. 10 and ARCT part of the syllabus forever the other day and I didn't see anything after the ARCT section except for, I'm not quite sure but I didn't see LRCM. What does that stand for? Is it another entire exam after ARCT level?