Your favorite cadenzas

[lisztisforkids]

There are so many of them. Right now I am particulary attached to Rachmaninoffs cadenza to his first concerto. The cadenza is better than the actual concerto I think.

[nanabush]

Liszt HR #2

[thalbergmad]

The Hamelin cadenza to the Liszt HR2 would get my vote at the moment.

[panic]

I always get a bit annoyed with cadenzas. Not to sound like a curmudgeon, but to me, if you can insert anything you want into a certain spot in a work, then that work is inherently weak in concept, particularly in concertos where the purpose of an inserted cadenza is often just to show off. It's kind of like leaving blank spots in a painting for others to fill in as they wish. That's about the only flaw I can find in Beethoven's 4th concerto.

[gorbee natcase]

I suppose it comes down to your aproach to music, some cadenzas realy make a piece of music some people hate them, I realy am afraid to get in to an arguament over  individual prefferance 

[I Love Xenakis]

Ginastera 2 or Barber

[ahinton]

I always get a bit annoyed with cadenzas. Not to sound like a curmudgeon, but to me, if you can insert anything you want into a certain spot in a work, then that work is inherently weak in concept, particularly in concertos where the purpose of an inserted cadenza is often just to show off. It's kind of like leaving blank spots in a painting for others to fill in as they wish. That's about the only flaw I can find in Beethoven's 4th concerto.

Try writing one for someone else's concerto and then see how you feel. Especially if - as I was once asked to do - you try to compose a cadenza for Medtner's Third Piano Concerto (and if ever a piano concerto didn't need one, this is it). I did actually do it and, whilst I'm not exactly displeased with the result per se, I can well imagine that Mæstro Medtner himself would have had an apoplectic fit if he'd ever seen it...

Best,

Alistair

[panic]

My interest is piqued. Where in the piece was it supposed to be placed?

[alejo_90]

Rach3 first Movement (the big chords one, not the scherzo like) and Marc-Andre Hamelin's HR2 cadenza.

P.D. I have a video of some guy playing HR 2 with Hamelin's cadenza, you can find it on altavista video search.

[kevinatcausa]

Overplayed or not, I always enjoy Grieg's cadenza for his concerto.

I also like Cziffra's choice of a cadenza for HR #2, or more precisely his lack of choice of a cadenza.

[kreso]

My favourites are-Beethoven-Concertos nos.3,4-1st mvt
                             Tchaikovsky-Concerto no.1 b flat minor 1st mvt
                             Grieg-Concerto op.16
                             Mozart-Piano Sonata in B flat major KV.333-3rd movment
                                         Concerto no.21 1st mvt
                             Rachmaninov-Concerto no.3 d minor 1st mvt

[Kassaa]

Prokofiev second concerto.

[e60m5]

Prokofiev 2 for sheer emotional power.

[pianolist]

Mozart K365 for two pianos on old 65-note pianola rolls (published about 1905) has a wow of a cadenza to the third movement. Wonderfully chromatic and anti-authentic. I think it may be by Carl Reinecke - anyone have any observations, or indeed the sheet music?

[tompilk]

"The United People Will Never Be Defeated" - Rzewski
 
(i wonder if any1 will notice)

[g_s_223]

The one towards the end of Brahms' piano concerto no.1 is lovely, in the hands of an artist (not a thumper) of course.

[hodi]

schumann's piano concerto cadenza 

[jre58591]

There are so many of them. Right now I am particulary attached to Rachmaninoffs cadenza to his first concerto. The cadenza is better than the actual concerto I think.

the cadenza from the original rach 1 is much better than the revised one we all know. its also fun to play. also, as many of you have mentioned, another good cadenza is the HR2 cadenza by hamelin. the ginastera 2 cadenza was also pretty interesting.

[pita bread]

Prokofiev 2
Ravel Left Hand
Ravel G

[musicsdarkangel]

I'm going to make an insane chromatic cadenza for Mozart's A major concerto, and I will add in double trills, octave glissandos, arpeggios in both hands in contrary motion, lightning octaves, and will organize them contrapuntally around eachother to make the most furious cadenza ever

[jason2711]

I'm going to make an insane chromatic cadenza for Mozart's A major concerto, and I will add in double trills, octave glissandos, arpeggios in both hands in contrary motion, lightning octaves, and will organize them contrapuntally around eachother to make the most furious cadenza ever

please post it on the audition room when you're done   

I enjoy most cadenzas... hard to choose really

[pita bread]

I'm going to make an insane chromatic cadenza for Mozart's A major concerto, and I will add in double trills, octave glissandos, arpeggios in both hands in contrary motion, lightning octaves, and will organize them contrapuntally around eachother to make the most furious cadenza ever

It's about time.

[gymnopedist]

I'm going to make an insane chromatic cadenza for Mozart's A major concerto, and I will add in double trills, octave glissandos, arpeggios in both hands in contrary motion, lightning octaves, and will organize them contrapuntally around eachother to make the most furious cadenza ever

Making it sound good is probably the hardest challenge...

[kevinatcausa]

To expand on that:

Making it sound good in the context of the rest of the concerto is probably the hardest  challenge.

[tompilk]

has no-one got my little prank i pulled earlier in the thread? lol...
Tom

[thalbergmad]

has no-one got my little prank i pulled earlier in the thread? lol...
Tom

Maybe too many Wigan fans on this forum??

[tompilk]

Maybe too many Wigan fans on this forum??

lol...no

[theodopolis]

I'm surprised the All Italiana cadenza in Busoni's Piano Concerto hasn't been mentioned yet.
That one gets my vote

Theodopolis

[jre58591]

I'm surprised the All Italiana cadenza in Busoni's Piano Concerto hasn't been mentioned yet.
That one gets my vote

Theodopolis

which cadenza do you mean? busoni wrote 2 versions of this cadenza. i like the one that was published separately (the one that hamelin plays). donohoe also does a good job in combining both of these cadenzas.

[presto agitato]

Does anyone know where can i find the the audio or  the score of the cadenzas that Mendelssohn wrote for Beethoven´s 4th piano concerto?