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Topic: Waldstein or Appassionata  (Read 3251 times)

Offline airasia

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Waldstein or Appassionata
on: January 12, 2006, 05:54:08 AM
Which one should be played first?  Or does it not really matter once you reach that level?  Also how does the Waldstein 3rd movement compare to the Appassionata 3rd movement in difficulty?

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Re: Waldstein or Appassionata
Reply #1 on: January 12, 2006, 08:53:28 AM
I would say that the Appassionata is more difficult musically and the Waldstein is more difficult technically.



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Offline zheer

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Re: Waldstein or Appassionata
Reply #2 on: January 12, 2006, 09:12:12 AM
The Waldstein should be playd first, its less demanding both musically and tecknically.
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Re: Waldstein or Appassionata
Reply #3 on: January 12, 2006, 09:30:44 AM
as always, the difficulty depends on what you want to do with the piece, if you want to go for insane speeds in the asspassion, then its harder, no doubt.

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Re: Waldstein or Appassionata
Reply #4 on: January 12, 2006, 08:29:39 PM
The Waldstein should be playd first, its less demanding both musically and tecknically.
Not that I have played them, but the Waldstein third movement is a killer.

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Re: Waldstein or Appassionata
Reply #5 on: January 12, 2006, 08:54:00 PM
but the Waldstein third movement is a killer.

  Yes, but less difficult than the appassionata third mvt. Mildly
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Re: Waldstein or Appassionata
Reply #6 on: January 12, 2006, 10:34:42 PM
I would say pretty much the same level.  The op 57 maybe a bit more demanding emotionally, maybe...

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Re: Waldstein or Appassionata
Reply #7 on: January 13, 2006, 03:07:30 AM
If you are at that level you should know which one suited your technique and which should be played first.

But, of course, if you are just trying to boost your post count that is fine with me. ;D
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Offline rohansahai

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Re: Waldstein or Appassionata
Reply #8 on: January 15, 2006, 03:54:43 PM
I think that the 1st mvt. of the Waldstein is terribly underestimated in terms of difficulty (I find it MUCH harder to play than the third movement) and the main reason for it is that IT IS TERRIBLY UNPIANISTIC (esp the developement). Lots of broken chords requiring quite unusual hand positions. The third movement gives you lots of moments of 'relief' , but the first is 10 minutes of 100% concentration ..the slightest of lapses can cause big slips ...it is intercrossed with runs and broken chords and trills.
I would be interested in knowing the comments of someone who has played both of them. Personally I would compare both the sonatas this way: The 3rd movement of the appasionata is slightly more difficult than the 1st mvt of the Waldstein, and the 3rd mvt. of the Waldstein is more difficult than the 1st mvt. of the Appasionata...2nd movements cancel out ( since there isn't much, technically, in either of them).
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