Scriabin Etude Op.8 No.12

[xire]

I recently heard this piece and I think it's amazing (played by Horowitz). I just totally love this piece and I can't stop listening to it. Are there more people here who love this piece, or played this piece by themselves?


For the people who're interested, here is a recording of Scriabin's Etude Op.8 No.12, played by Kissin in Amsterdam 2002:


Download link: https://rapidshare.de/files/10982554/Scriabin_Etude_op_8_nr._12_Evgeny_Kissin_Amsterdam_15_December_2002_.mp3.html



Kissin plays it nice too, though, I like the Horowitz version better.

[cherub_rocker1979]

I've played it, it's a great piece.

[superstition2]

There's an inferior revision that wasn't published during Scriabin's lifetime. Stephen Coombs includes it on his "Early Scriabin" disc. It's a curiosity, but the original version is definately better. Scriabin apparently felt that way, because he told the publisher not to publish the revision.

[quantum]

I play this piece, and I love it.  One of those pieces which I would describe as addictive to listen to. 

[xire]

Indeed, very addictive. I can't stop listening to it for some reason. The Etude is quite short, wich I like too.


I want to play this Etude so badly, but I'm not advanced enough yet to play this piece. Can you guys give me some more information about this Etude? Is it very difficult to play? Or is it quite "simple" compared to some others?

I'd like to hear some opinions, thanks. 

[maxy]

fairly easy to learn.

left hand is nasty

[maxy]

fairly easy to learn.

left hand is nasty

[g_s_223]

I'm learning this now, in a fairly relaxed way. There are a fair number of challenges:
1) the unusual key (D# minor) and lots of x accidentals
2) the 4-against-3 in places
3) pedalling
4) whether to redistribute notes between the hands, see: https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,14008.0.html
5) completely confident octaves
6) really getting it up to full tempo

That said, it is very pianistically written, and is coming together for me: overall I get the impression it will be easier to bring off than most Chopin Etudes.

 

[sissco]

Great One....But i love "Scriabin - Prelude op. 11 No. 14 (Gavrilov)" even more....that very short one. But i can't play it yet...But i am learning 

[xire]

Thanks for the replies. I hope I can play this Etude someday. Listening to this Etude makes me kinda sad and angry at the same time. At the end of the piece, I feel a relief or something. I can't really discripe what I feel, but this piece is just amazing.



@g_s_223: I never played pieces with "x"- or "the 4-against-3" signs. I know this is a beginner question, but could you explain me what those signs mean? Thanks in advance!

[sissco]

x for double sharp?

[I Love Xenakis]

It's ok.

[quantum]

x in this case means double sharp.  Two semitones up from the written note.

4 against 3 refers to polyrhythmic patterns.  4 sixteenths against 3 triplet eighths, played at the same time. 

[harmelodic]

I've worked on this etude.  Its fairly easy to learn, has some awkward streches in the left hand, but getting it to tempo takes time.  As usual, hands separate helps alot. 

Another similar piece that I've performed and actually like better is Rach's Etude-Tableux, Op.39, No.5.  Of all of Scriabin's etude's I like Op. 42, No. 5 best.

[xire]

Thanks for the replies and quantum; thanks for explaining! I took a closer look at the sheet music. The right hand doesn't seem that difficult, compared to the left hand. Like some of you said about the left hand, it does look difficult indeed. Since I'm not experienced enough yet to learn a piece like this, I will try to learn the right hand passages first. When my technic is ready to lean the complete piece, I will practise as much until I can play it, but it'll take a while before I'm there.


Btw: do you like Kissin's performance of Etude Op.8 No.12?