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Offline I Love Xenakis

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SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
on: January 24, 2006, 11:52:23 PM
Unless you plan to start doing ANYTHING in this board besides harassing Alistair Hinton, please shut up.  I'm not trying to "stick up" for Hinton; I'm just getting really bored with your monotonous, unfunny, unwitty, repetitive (not to mention futile), jabs at Hinton.  He's a useful and contributing member of this forum, unlike you.

Quote from Ryan on AOL Instant Messenger:

"ryguillian: Hey John do you want to come help trash Hinton on pianostreet with me?  He's too smart for me to do it alone."



please plz
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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #1 on: January 25, 2006, 12:13:38 AM
cunt, muff, fred

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #2 on: January 25, 2006, 12:46:19 AM
I believe discussion of Him belongs in "Anything But Piano".

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #3 on: January 25, 2006, 01:06:08 AM
Hahahaha so now we dare not speak his name?


Man...  the Ryan-Hinton rivalry used to be hilarious.  Now it's just gone too far.



well, more aptly the Ryan --> Hinton rivalry.
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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #4 on: January 25, 2006, 01:22:10 AM
Good thing I save chat transcripts (Ryan Hayes = Ryguillian; Peter Ryan = Pita Bread; maddycrew = i love xenakis):

AIM Chat with Peter Ryan <allfakenofun>, maddycrew. 12/29/05, 2:19 AM

maddycrew: he's a pedantic ***
maddycrew: and needs to be taken down
Ryan Hayes: With this particular sonofabitch it will be necessary to channel our collective energies to break through his impenetrable net of verbiage and Sorabjism.
maddycrew: aka
maddycrew: he's a douche
maddycrew: but really smart
Peter Ryan: stop talking like hinton dammit.
Ryan Hayes: lol
maddycrew: or at the very least an expert at sounding smart
Ryan Hayes: Did you ever see the thing where I owned him?
maddycrew: no i didnt
Peter Ryan: if you publish a book called sorabjicumarchanginexicumbalsticum
Ryan Hayes: Let me find it.
Peter Ryan: i will kill you
maddycrew: but i'm sure it's classic
Ryan Hayes: Oh man!
Ryan Hayes: You know what'll kill him.
maddycrew: what?
Ryan Hayes: If we claim that we're workin gon a Sorabji work that doesn't exist.
maddycrew: wait
maddycrew: the solo tantrik symphony
maddycrew:
Peter Ryan: what ever happened to that piece?
Ryan Hayes: Opus Necromancerium.
Ryan Hayes: lol
maddycrew: nah it has to be something that's actually latin
Ryan Hayes: Opus Veniveniveniasium
Ryan Hayes: haha
maddycrew: hahahaha
maddycrew: NO
maddycrew: ***
maddycrew: I'VE GOT IT
Peter Ryan: opus CUM
Ryan Hayes: lol
maddycrew: Opus Appassissimo
Ryan Hayes: Opus Cumalotseamun
Peter Ryan: yea
Peter Ryan: wait
Peter Ryan: what was the jokeo ne
Ryan Hayes: Apassissimo?
Peter Ryan: one*
Peter Ryan: yea the one they did a joke review of
maddycrew: yeah
maddycrew: i dont think we can do an "opus" one
maddycrew: it needs to be total BS
maddycrew: i like Solo Tantrik Symphony
Ryan Hayes: OH GOD
Ryan Hayes: I got it!
maddycrew: what?
Ryan Hayes: Shut the *** up cockfaces for a second.
maddycrew: Homage to Alistair Hinton?
Ryan Hayes: hangon
Ryan Hayes: ; this is surely a significant consideration in discussion of "the hardest piece" phenomenon, for it demonstrates that satisfying Xenakis
2:25 AM
Ryan Hayes: OK.
Ryan Hayes: Xenakis is dead.
Ryan Hayes: So nobody is going to satisfy him
Ryan Hayes: Except Alistair Hinton
Ryan Hayes: who fucks corpses
maddycrew: haha
maddycrew: no wait
Ryan Hayes: and thus, satisfies them.
Ryan Hayes: hahaha
Peter Ryan: well
Peter Ryan: it's more rape
maddycrew: he could mean
Peter Ryan: than satisfaction
Peter Ryan: have you seen his picture before?
Ryan Hayes: No.
maddycrew: satisfies the conditions of what xenakis would consider "playing" the piece
Ryan Hayes: Yes
maddycrew: see you have to look ahead
Ryan Hayes: In some Sorabji book.
Ryan Hayes: I know what he means, I'm just corrupting it.
maddycrew: but he'll come back with that
maddycrew: you have to null that response in some other statement
maddycrew: like say
Peter Ryan: Is Hinton's music any good?
Ryan Hayes: I am semi-friends with Contrapunctus.
maddycrew: or if you meant "satisfies the conditions of what xenakis would consider "playing" the piece" then you should have said something that resembles that in any way, shape or form.
Ryan Hayes: And while he is a stupid ***
Ryan Hayes: He is semi-intelligent and I bet he hates Alistair, too.
Ryan Hayes: I'll talk to him tomorrow.
maddycrew: ok
Ryan Hayes: We need to formulate the most perfect post.
maddycrew: can we sneak in how shitty his string quintet is?
maddycrew: that
maddycrew: that's his favorite piece
Peter Ryan: Did anyone
Peter Ryan: record the webcast?
maddycrew: of powell?
Peter Ryan: no
Ryan Hayes: I did.
Peter Ryan: string quartet
Ryan Hayes: Oh, not the String QUratet.
Ryan Hayes: I haven't heard Powell's.
Ryan Hayes: Is it bad?
Peter Ryan: powell has a string quartet?
Ryan Hayes: Alistair made a string quartet too.
Ryan Hayes: I don't know.
Ryan Hayes: I'm confused.
maddycrew: ***
maddycrew: i've got it!
Peter Ryan: what the *** just happened?
maddycrew: i've fuckin got it
Ryan Hayes: *listens*
Peter Ryan: yes?
Peter Ryan: cum hither my child.
maddycrew: we use a bunch of FAKE sorabji quotes
Ryan Hayes: Yes.
Peter Ryan: lol.. Sorabji secretly denounced hinton
maddycrew: he'll be so busy trying to correct them and/or wetting himself that he wont be able to deal with us
Peter Ryan: after during an affair
maddycrew: yeah
Peter Ryan: he discovered that
Ryan Hayes: Indeed.
Peter Ryan: hinton um
Peter Ryan: lacks
Peter Ryan: girth.
Ryan Hayes: We all have to do it.
maddycrew: like a quote that implicates sorabji and hinton
maddycrew: like
maddycrew: how he dedicated his perfume garden to hinton
maddycrew: or something
maddycrew: and how he said
maddycrew: To both a great lover and a great friend- to my friend- AH
maddycrew: or something
Ryan Hayes: lol
Peter Ryan: hahaha
Peter Ryan: is hinton ghey?
maddycrew: undoubtably
Ryan Hayes: I don't know.
2:30 AM
maddycrew: it doesnt matter
Peter Ryan: i'm assuming he's asexual
Ryan Hayes: Well, hey, I'm gay too, but *** Alistair is just a pussy.
Peter Ryan: for now
Ryan Hayes: Zimmermann.
Ryan Hayes: hahah
Peter Ryan: three kinds of people in this world.
Peter Ryan: dicks, pussies, and assholes
Ryan Hayes: Straight, Gay, Alistair
Peter Ryan: dicks *** pussies and assholes
Ryan Hayes: ha
maddycrew: i am a dick
Ryan Hayes: Alistair fucks cacti.
maddycrew: hahaha
maddycrew: oik
maddycrew: ok*
Peter Ryan: cactifucker.
Peter Ryan: catfishfucker
Ryan Hayes: OK, back on track.
maddycrew: we all need to put fake sorabji quotes as our signature
maddycrew: ok?
Ryan Hayes: When is this all going to go down?
maddycrew: right now
maddycrew: or whenever he responds
maddycrew: nobody has ever NOT kissed up to him
maddycrew: he'll probably have no idea how to deal with my post
Ryan Hayes: "what I wrote was intended to be taken less than seriously"
maddycrew: he'll be all caught off gaurd and say stupid sh*t we can make fun of
maddycrew: the point of him writing it was for it to not be taken seriously?
maddycrew: that is some complicated sh*t to think about
maddycrew: XD
Ryan Hayes: I guess so.
Ryan Hayes: hahah
Ryan Hayes: You gotta have a mind like Hinton to process that sh*t.
Peter Ryan: how on earth do you guys think this fast at this hour.
maddycrew: we're gay
maddycrew: that's how
Ryan Hayes: Caffeine
Peter Ryan: i'm about to pass out
Ryan Hayes: Then Pass out California.
maddycrew: you wuss
Peter Ryan: i got blasted by the exhaust of a vacuum cleaner
Peter Ryan: in the face
maddycrew: hahaha
Ryan Hayes: Hot.
maddycrew: turns me on
Ryan Hayes: Hey.
Peter Ryan: and kitty litter dust in my *** lungs
Ryan Hayes: Skepto
maddycrew: yeah/
Ryan Hayes: I have a PDF about performing Xenakis
Peter Ryan: Skepto, how do you know Pace?
maddycrew: emails
maddycrew: i own the complete harmonologia series
maddycrew: what does the PDF say, and who is the author?
Ryan Hayes: hangon, I gotta find it
2:35 AM
Peter Ryan: And what's this fox sonata?
Ryan Hayes: Fox Sonata?
Peter Ryan: yea
maddycrew: yeah
maddycrew: i'll show you guys sometime
maddycrew: it's quite terrifying
Ryan Hayes: It's called Xenakis and the Performer.
Ryan Hayes: By Peter HIll.
maddycrew: peter hill
maddycrew: that ***
Peter Ryan: that pregnant dog
Peter Ryan: him and his overdubbing
Peter Ryan: pussy.
maddycrew: he's the douche that says you should move down chords in evryali to play it
maddycrew: it's not a fuckin 12tone piece
Peter Ryan: that was the guy who wrote the essay?
maddycrew: yeah
Peter Ryan: on how its not important to get all the notes?
maddycrew: right
Ryan Hayes: Yeah, well you can attack this position.
Peter Ryan: CUNTFACE
Ryan Hayes: He quotes Xenakis.
Ryan Hayes: In the piece
Ryan Hayes: And so we can use Xenakis' quotes
maddycrew: brb
Ryan Hayes: Because I think they go against Hill's beliefs.
Peter Ryan: Xenakis' music is scary ass sh*t.
Ryan Hayes: Yeah.
Peter Ryan: But I think the Sciarrino is up there too
Ryan Hayes: I don't know it.
Peter Ryan: what I heard of the clarient concerto scared me more than Ligeti's requiem
maddycrew: hahah
maddycrew: penderecki is teh winnar
Peter Ryan: true
Ryan Hayes: Scary music winner?
2:40 AM
Peter Ryan: yea Penderecki is just what
Ryan Hayes: Threnody
Ryan Hayes: Early Penderecki, you mean.
Peter Ryan: I don't like hearing his music.
Ryan Hayes: I like the Threnody.
maddycrew: i love ear;y penfertecki
maddycrew: especially the cello concerto
maddycrew: and the capriccio for violin and orchestra
maddycrew: and partita for harpsichord and orchestra
maddycrew: and Kanon
maddycrew: wow we SO got off topic
maddycrew: anyways
maddycrew: THAT FUCKIN HINTON
Ryan Hayes: "Chance. . .can be constructed up to a point and with great difficulty, by means of complex reasoning which is summarized in mathematical formulae; it can be constructed a little, but never improvised or intellectually imitated."
Ryan Hayes: -- Iannis Xenakis
Peter Ryan: who's steveie986?
Ryan Hayes: I think that destroys Hinton's argument.
Ryan Hayes: "never improvised"
maddycrew: ok
Peter Ryan: never improvised.
maddycrew: anyways
maddycrew: what is pita's job/
Peter Ryan: to pass out.
maddycrew: mine is to piss hinton off and make him slip up
maddycrew: yours is to sound smarter than him
maddycrew: what is pita's?
Ryan Hayes: Hahaha.
Peter Ryan: I don't hate Hinton that much
Ryan Hayes:
maddycrew: aww cmon
Ryan Hayes: Get out!
Ryan Hayes: hahah
Peter Ryan: hahaha
Peter Ryan: ill probably have to
maddycrew: you know you hate him
Peter Ryan: supply you guys with
maddycrew: he's such a wanker
Peter Ryan: proxies
Peter Ryan: after you all get banned
maddycrew: hahahahaha
Ryan Hayes: Do you know who else hates him?
maddycrew: not john carey
Peter Ryan: practically everyone on the forum?
maddycrew: who will come to his side like a little dog
“Our civilization is decadent and our language—so the argument runs—must inevitably share in the general collapse.”
—, an essay by George Orwell

Offline I Love Xenakis

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #5 on: January 25, 2006, 01:34:26 AM
Yes.  But you cut off the beginning of  the conversation where you did indeed make that quote.  The convo before Pita Bread came in and I decided to help you guys out cause I was bored.
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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #6 on: January 25, 2006, 01:39:39 AM
Quote from: i love xenakis
Yes.  But you cut off the beginning of  the conversation where you did indeed make that quote.  The convo before Pita Bread came in and I decided to help you guys out cause I was bored.

No. You were pissed because of what Alistair said about Xenakis and wanted revenge. You lie incessantly: about your repertoire, about your penis size, and about what you've said in the past.

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #7 on: January 25, 2006, 01:41:30 AM
about your penis size
Hah! Where do you get your material from? You are so witty! I want to subscribe to your newsletter.

Offline ryguillian

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #8 on: January 25, 2006, 01:43:07 AM
Quote from: pies
Hah! Where do you get your material from? You are so witty! I want to subscribe to your newsletter.

Not from this cesspool, that's for sure.

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Offline I Love Xenakis

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #9 on: January 25, 2006, 01:43:57 AM
When have I ever talked about my penis size o.O

And since you save conversations I'd figure you'd post the one that would exonnerate (spelling) you o.o


And why did you cut off the rest of that convo with Pita?  You cut off the funny part about making up the fake sorabji piece and fake sorabji quotes XD
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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #10 on: January 25, 2006, 01:51:09 AM
You know what?

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #11 on: January 25, 2006, 02:22:46 AM
Thanks yet again for reminding me why I stopped reading this forum for about four months. Time to delete the bookmark yet again.

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #12 on: January 25, 2006, 11:15:51 AM
Thanks yet again for reminding me why I stopped reading this forum for about four months. Time to delete the bookmark yet again.

hahahahahaah, thou doth not appreciateth CGeth?

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #13 on: January 25, 2006, 11:53:34 AM
No. You were pissed because of what Alistair said about Xenakis
One may reasonably assume that "i_love_xenakis" does indeed love Xenakis and I, for one, cannot figure out why or how anything I might have said about that composer, for whom I have considerable respect (irrespective of the extent to which he may or may not actually have agreed with my remarks) might have upset him, as you appear to contend; indeed, "i_love_xenakis" himself seems not at present to be suggesting that he has been so upset.

This, however, is as nothing in comparison to the fact that the content of this thread, whose (non-penile) length is patently so very disproportionate to any actual serious discussion of the matters relating to pianos, piano writing and playing, pianists, etc. for which this forum is intended; that "i_love_xenakis" has even felt the necessity to initiate this thread in the first place is surely evidence enough that the forum is from time to time being abused by chilish irrelevance.

"RYGUILLIAN" recently posted an apology on this forum for having been "hostile"; more recent evidence clearly suggests that he undergoes considerable mood-swings, to which, of course, he is as entitled as he wishes to be, although whether or to what extent it may be seen by other forum members as appropriate to illustrate them on this forum is quite another matter.

Forum discussions such as one expects to find here at pianostreet will inevitably generate some disagreements, but then this is the case when any worthwhile subjects are seriously debated, so such exchanges are to be welcomed, as long as they contain substance and remain civil.

This forum has been host to many important and interesting questions, answers, ideas and comments; let those who take pleasure in reading and contributing them return to them - and may those who prefer to do otherwise either go elsewhere or at least do the others the courtesy of keeping quiet.

Finally, please bear in mind that I am neither the owner nor a modertor of this forum, so my remarks above are not intended to be interpreted as though I am seeking to "tell" anyone what to do or not to do on this forum (for I neither wish nor am entitled to do that); rather, I make a mere plea for due sanity - the forum surely deserves no less...

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #14 on: January 25, 2006, 01:46:01 PM
hahaha, da aliztah is a true CG LEGEND, this evident

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #15 on: January 25, 2006, 08:55:37 PM
... and there was me thinking that this was a forum for grown-ups :(

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #16 on: January 25, 2006, 10:31:45 PM
... and there was me thinking that this was a forum for grown-ups :(
...and there - but for the grace of "Is there a God?" - went I, thinking much the same and, indeed, it is largely true; please, therefore, do not assume that certain blots on the landscape that you have encountered are necessarily representative of the principles and workings of the forum as a whole...

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #17 on: January 25, 2006, 10:35:55 PM
Quote from: ahinton
...and there - but for the grace of "Is there a God?" - went I, thinking much the same and, indeed, it is largely true; please, therefore, do not assume that certain blots on the landscape that you have encoungtered are necessarily representative of the principles and workings of the forum as a whole...

I'm a blot on the landscape now?

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #18 on: January 25, 2006, 11:08:33 PM
I'm a blot on the landscape now?

—Ryan
That was not what I wrote - as surely you can see for yourself (or at least I hope you can) - and, since you have entered the unfortunate fray here, may I once again (in case you have not already read it elsewhere) apologise for the fact that I still have no useful update on the very sensible question that you asked about the new BIS CD of the first 25 of Sorabji's 100 Transcendental Studies?

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #19 on: January 25, 2006, 11:13:39 PM
P.S. - see the thread on the 100 TS Vol. I CD...

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Offline musicsdarkangel

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Re: SHUT UP RYGUILLIAN
Reply #20 on: January 26, 2006, 12:24:22 AM
Ry Guillian,

you seriously need to learn when to shut up.


or to walk in other people's shoes before flaming them.

I feel sorry for you.
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