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Offline verywellmister

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Ravel
on: January 29, 2006, 10:49:16 PM
Sonatine (third movement) vs. Jeux d'eau

Which is harder technically?  to interpret?
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Offline amaryllith

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Re: Ravel
Reply #1 on: January 29, 2006, 10:53:09 PM
I haven't played either of these pieces (so wait for other opinions), but I believe Jeux D'eau is more difficult technically.

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Re: Ravel
Reply #2 on: January 29, 2006, 11:07:46 PM
Jeux d'eau is the more difficult piece. It's technical passages are more intricate and it requires more variation of tempo, phrasing, tone color and shading than the Sonatine mvt. 3. Which is no walk in the park either...
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Offline lostinidlewonder

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Re: Ravel
Reply #3 on: January 30, 2006, 01:41:14 AM
Technically Jeux d'eau, Interpretave Sonatine's Anime. Jeux d'eau has a lot of large arpeggio's and the arpeggio measures leading to the Glissando is much tougher and intricate than anything you find in the Sonatine. But to me Jeux d'eau has obvious sound, you are pushed in the right direction if you manage to control the right notes. With the Anime you have to really think how you will present the 3 note idea throughout the piece. Everything is in 3's but always in different ways, which demands us to use a lot of interpretation to present it correctly, not just playing the note procedure.
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Re: Ravel
Reply #4 on: January 30, 2006, 03:11:05 AM
Jeux d'eau is interpretively tough. Yes it "pushes you in the right direction" but unless you want a typical pretty and flowery Ravel-as-Ravel-should-be-played interpretation, it takes much more thought and experimentation to make into something special. 

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Re: Ravel
Reply #5 on: February 03, 2006, 04:19:33 PM
In ravel's own words  "  It is enough if my music is played, there is no need for interpretation"   
anyway hvent played sonatine, but have played jeux d'eau,  and  its a real challenge to get the colors right.

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Re: Ravel
Reply #6 on: February 04, 2006, 02:16:20 AM
In ravel's own words  "  It is enough if my music is played, there is no need for interpretation"

His music may be well-written enough to sound good if it is just played, but it sure is boring unless you do something special with it.

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Re: Ravel
Reply #7 on: February 04, 2006, 08:48:50 AM
jeux d'eaux is definitely the harder piece technically.  the anime is hard to pin down artistically, but there are massive clues from considering it in context of the whole sonatine.  there is that elusive edge of irony in ravel which always complicates, but is also endlessy fascinating.
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