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Offline johnny-boy

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Re: Genius
Reply #50 on: April 01, 2006, 09:38:38 PM
I don’t think of genius as an intelligent quotient. I think genius occurs in all levels of intelligence. “Genius” is those select few that see things in a totally different way than anyone else. They create things that never existed previously. They “dance to a different drummer” so to speak. They visualize possibilities where most see impossibilities.

I’ve seen highly intelligent people that were only ordinary in their pursuits, jobs, imagination, creativity, etc. and I’ve seen the opposite.

I don’t think of geniuses as gods. I see them as ordinary people with an extraordinary gift of imagination and inventiveness.

Musically speaking; I think George Gershwin, John Lennon, and Scott Joplin were geniuses (among others).

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Re: Genius
Reply #51 on: April 03, 2006, 01:10:43 AM
Most people that 'think in a totally different way' are very dangerous to human society. Often they are a victim of society because they cannot relegate(is that the right word? I mean 'give a place') society with their lives.

And I don't really mean sick or psychopatic people though they will also be part of this group when I say they are dangerous. They can also be moral and dangerous to human society.

I don't like to call all these people genius. I mean, any atheist could be a genius if you apply this definition. Even any misfit. I myself would probably be one.

Also, I am not so sure that the succes of the people you name come from their different way of viewing the world. I don't really want to discredit John Lennon or the Beatles but their succes is only partly due to their own abilities. And if you talk about those abilities then one could just as easily make a case that John Lennon was an ignorant person of high intelligence. I think Gershwin was someone like that. Surely this person was very bright, but he also knew he knew very little. Thus the story of him requisting lessons with Ravel and Ravel refusing claiming he could probably learn more from the would-be student.
I am no expert on these three persons, I haven't read any of their biographies for example, but surely these people had fresh approaches to music and they had succes. But saying that they had an unique perspective of reality or that they were geniusses seems a bit misplaced.

Genius is often such a superlative term. I mean, it is something you apply to your 'hero's and idols', whatever they have achived.
I prefer it as a term based on intelligent quotient. And yes this means many of the genius people are not worth out 'worship'. So if you do not prefer this, how should I put it, placidly dull definition then your definition will probably end up being one of 'idol wortship'; genius will be too elusive any other way.
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Re: Genius
Reply #52 on: April 03, 2006, 09:57:26 AM
“Most people that 'think in a totally different way' are very dangerous to human society-prometheus

First off, you took this out of context (and altered my words). This was my statement:

“Genius” is those select few that see things in a totally different way than anyone else. They create things that never existed previously. They “dance to a different drummer” so to speak. They visualize possibilities where most see impossibilities.

Quite different in meaning from your out of context and altered version.

Secondly, how did you come to the conclusion that most people that “think” in a totally different way are dangerous to society? Do you have some statistics to back this broad statement up?

Your entire reply was written in this deceptive and inaccurate manner. So it would be senseless for me to debate this any further with you.

John



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Re: Genius
Reply #53 on: April 05, 2006, 03:18:18 AM
French Fries.  ;D
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Re: Genius
Reply #54 on: April 05, 2006, 05:00:11 PM
Stop analyzing; just compose the damn thing!

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Re: Genius
Reply #55 on: April 14, 2006, 04:39:46 AM
French Fries.  ;D

French Fries are a piece of genius.
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Re: Genius
Reply #56 on: April 14, 2006, 04:58:56 AM
French Fries are a piece of genius.

lol  ;D ;D ;D bwhahahahahaha !!
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Re: Genius
Reply #57 on: April 14, 2006, 05:07:04 AM
Maybe I'm a little thick but I still don't get it. ???

French Fries...hmm...........yum...........

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