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Offline mvmacke

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Night on the bare mountain
on: February 25, 2006, 08:41:38 AM
Who can help me with the sheet music of "Night on the bare mountain" by Mussorgsky? This would be a wonderful suprise to my wife.... She was born on a bare mountain.

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Re: Night on the bare mountain
Reply #1 on: February 25, 2006, 12:05:11 PM
Can somebody email me the sheets?

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Re: Night on the bare mountain
Reply #2 on: February 25, 2006, 02:35:23 PM
isn't it night on bald mountain?
i'm not asian

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Re: Night on the bare mountain
Reply #4 on: February 25, 2006, 05:57:55 PM
I've heard 'bald' and 'bare' from many different people.  They mean the same thing, so it has to do with how it was translated and by who.

Haha I remember playing that in my grade 9 music class.  [it sounded like crap], saxophone all the way!
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Re: Night on the bare mountain
Reply #5 on: February 26, 2006, 04:19:27 AM
I believe it is "bald" mountain, not "bare" mountain.  I do not believe it is a translator's error, as you say.  I believe you just remembered the title wrong.

Also, wasn't this an orchestral piece?  You would have to find a transcription.

You seem pretty sure of yourself, but your self-confidence is unwarranted.  I believe you have a number of your facts wrong.

Good luck--- seems like you will need it.

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Re: Night on the bare mountain
Reply #6 on: February 26, 2006, 04:29:33 AM
   First of all, none of what I said is wrong, perhaps you misunderstood what I said.  Secondly, I don't know how a music class with more than 20 students can play a solo transcription of this piece...  Usually a high school music class has more than one student in it.  We did play the orchestral version of it, and yes, it did sound like crap.  Thirdly, I am not the only one who 'remembered the title wrong'.  I have seen 'bare' mountain on several occasions, and yes, I have heard 'bare' and 'bald' from several different people.  If you want proof that it is not just me who thought of 'bare' mountain, check any random search engine.  Even if that is not the correct name, it is still used.  And if you want a better understanding of what I said, add a "perhaps' between  "They mean the same thing, so"  and "it has to do with..."  I am aware that that changes the meaning entirely, but I forgot to add that word, and I am sorry if you misunderstood where I was going with that.  Finally, " Good luck---seems like you will need it"  Is unnecessary, good luck with what?  Why will I need it if I played a piece in my grade 9 music class [with] the rest of my class, and have heard both names like many other people.  Sorry if you misunderstood what I said, but comon, you don't have to be an a** about it.
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Re: Night on the bare mountain
Reply #7 on: February 26, 2006, 08:28:22 AM
It's "Bald" mountain. I'm a 100% sure of it. And If I'm not wrong there's actually a piano version for this piece, the original one. The common version is a Korsakov orchestration, Mussorgsky wrote it for piano I think. But the score should be almost impossible to find.
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Re: Night on the bare mountain
Reply #8 on: February 26, 2006, 10:28:25 AM
It's "Bald" mountain. I'm a 100% sure of it. And If I'm not wrong there's actually a piano version for this piece, the original one. The common version is a Korsakov orchestration, Mussorgsky wrote it for piano I think. But the score should be almost impossible to find.
I believe the one i posted earlier was the Mussorgsky version.
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Re: Night on the bare mountain
Reply #9 on: February 26, 2006, 11:41:36 AM
With russian, the name is actually Night on a 'Bare' Mountain, thats the correct translation from Russian

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Re: Night on the bare mountain
Reply #10 on: February 26, 2006, 12:13:00 PM
From Wikipedia:
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Night on Bald Mountain is the common name for St. John's Night on the Bare Mountain (Ivanova noch' na Lisoy gore)

Wikipedia uses 'bald' and 'bare' interchangeably throughout. I think, as Nanabush said, that since 'bald' and 'bare' mean the same thing, the different versions of the title are a cause of different translations.

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And If I'm not wrong there's actually a piano version for this piece, the original one. The common version is a Korsakov orchestration, Mussorgsky wrote it for piano I think. But the score should be almost impossible to find.

Again according to Wikipedia, this piece exist in many different versions. Mussorgsky first wrote it as an orchestral tone-picture, ('St. John’s Night on the Bare Mountain'), then re-cast it for chorus and orchestra for an opera that came to nothing. The third version was intended for the opera 'Sorochintzy fair', but it was never completed. The orchestral version we know today was done by Rimsky-Korsakov, based on Mussorgskys scores. Wikipedia doesn't mention anything about the piano-version.
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Re: Night on the bare mountain
Reply #11 on: February 26, 2006, 01:29:13 PM
It's "Bald" mountain. I'm a 100% sure of it. And If I'm not wrong there's actually a piano version for this piece, the original one. The common version is a Korsakov orchestration, Mussorgsky wrote it for piano I think. But the score should be almost impossible to find.

It is both "Bald" and "Bare" - I'm 100% sure of it.  The original title is not in English, and sometimes it is called one, sometimes the other.  This is not complex.  For God's sake, folks, at least check amazon.com before you spout.

I don't know of any piano version, and I think some people may be confusing it with Pictures at an Exhibition, was was, of course, originally written for piano, but is probably usually done with orchestration.

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Re: Night on the bare mountain
Reply #12 on: February 26, 2006, 07:21:03 PM
Pictures at an Exhibition Rules !! ;D and I think that Night on Bald/Bare Mountain is amazing, and a little scary at some parts don't you think?
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Re: Night on the bare mountain
Reply #13 on: February 27, 2006, 01:12:24 AM
Pictures at an Exhibition Rules !! ;D and I think that Night on Bald/Bare Mountain is amazing, and a little scary at some parts don't you think?


 I love Pictures at an Exhibition, especially the piano version.  My wife, however, HATES it (She refers to the Gnomus as "cat piano").  So it is played through headphones when she's out.

I think Night on Bald Mountain is kind of terrifying.  There is a reason that Disney used it for the Satan scene in Fantasia.  Unfortunately, I can't listen to it without thinking of that scene.

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Re: Night on the bare mountain
Reply #14 on: February 27, 2006, 10:02:28 PM
I played Night on the bare mountain in an orchestra... great piece of music, this was at the same time I was (attempting to) learn Pictures at an Exhibition, so I was a big Mussorgsky fan at the time.

Might even check out that piano version for the craic  8)

hmm... now that I've looked at it... seems very difficult, I'm sure it would be fun though!

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Re: Night on the bare mountain
Reply #15 on: February 28, 2006, 01:40:17 AM
hmm... now that I've looked at it... seems very difficult, I'm sure it would be fun though!

It's MURDER.  I once learned it as far as "Tiuleries" and it took a LONG time, FAR longer than it should have considering the actual AMOUNT of music.  And I had to fudge some of it, at that, because it's just too big for my hands.
 
The easiest piece in it is probably "The Old Castle" which is pretty easy.   The rest is murder.

Great music, though.  I have a recording of Byron Janis doing it, which is one of my favorite records.
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