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Offline alejo_90

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Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
on: February 26, 2006, 06:40:09 AM
Listen everyone, For 6 months I've been addicted to this piece and I've heard around 20 interpretations of it. Somemone please recommend me a good one (not orchestrated version) and also were to get an Mp3 of it.
 
Here is a list of the ones I've heard:
-Michele campanella
-David Helfgott (The most crappy of all)
-Sergei Rachmaninoff
-Grigory Ginsburg
-Isador Goodman
-Georges Cziffra
-Roberto Szidon
-Misha Dichter
-Ignacy Jan Paderewsky
-Jeno Jando
-Horowitz arrangement (played by Volodos and Himself)

*The other 8 I got them on Internet and couldn't figure out who was the performer

I'm aware that they are Cortot and Hofmann versions. I want them too !!!
Please help me, I'm looking for the perfect one !!!
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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #1 on: February 26, 2006, 09:50:52 AM
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I'm aware that they are Cortot and Hofmann versions. I want them too !!!
Please help me, I'm looking for the perfect one !!!

Trust me: Hofmann's sucks! I deleted it!
Cortot's is simply the most mindblowing interpretation I've ever heard (I'll attach it).
I agree that Volodos is *** good on the horowitz transcription, BUT: Lang Lang is 100x better...I'll post his one, too.

palika  :)

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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #2 on: February 26, 2006, 04:19:21 PM
Hamelin
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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #3 on: February 26, 2006, 04:27:28 PM
Trust me: Hofmann's sucks! I deleted it!
Cortot's is simply the most mindblowing interpretation I've ever heard (I'll attach it).
I agree that Volodos is *** good on the horowitz transcription, BUT: Lang Lang is 100x better...I'll post his one, too.

palika  :)
mind to post volodos and langlang version of Horowitz?
i would put Dennis Matsuev to my favorite with his jazzy candenza
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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #4 on: February 26, 2006, 04:57:37 PM

Cortot's is simply the most mindblowing interpretation I've ever heard (I'll attach it).


  Loved it,  something about cortot, that stands the test of time 8)
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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #5 on: February 26, 2006, 07:07:00 PM
Thanks  :D
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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #6 on: February 26, 2006, 07:09:14 PM
Where can I find an Mp3 of Lang Lang and hamelin versions ?  :P
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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #7 on: February 26, 2006, 07:14:51 PM

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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #8 on: February 26, 2006, 07:23:37 PM
Thanks again !   ;D
Any more versions? Even if hofmann sucks, I'd like to have it please ! :P
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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #10 on: February 26, 2006, 08:56:00 PM
Thanks again !   ;D
Any more versions? Even if hofmann sucks, I'd like to have it please ! :P
https://s64.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3PSVB7L3IR9CX0OGGM80X8KNA4
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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #11 on: February 26, 2006, 09:08:13 PM
Does someone have the Misha Dichter Version. I accidentaly deleted it. ::)
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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #12 on: February 28, 2006, 12:41:51 PM
Ah, I think we're forgetting the Hungarian Rhapsody No.2 altogether. The overwhelming responses seem to favour either the Horowitz transcription either in the hands of the man himself or Volodos/Lang Lang or Marc-Andre Hamelin's recording.

I must ask - Are you judging the performance of the Liszt itself?

As much as I love the Horowitz version (Possibly even more than the original Liszt) it does have the advantage of being... 'The Horowitz Version'

...and Marc-Andre Hamelin's version: How many are judging the work beyond the mind-boggling and rather nifty cadenza? I find it a very dry performance of the Liszt but the cadenza does redeem the entire performance.


That said, my vote definitely goes to Cziffra's performance from the live concert in Japan.
All inhibitions created by the studio atmosphere are gone and we're left with the four best ingredients on earth - Cziffra; a piano; an audience; and Liszt.

Thanks

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Does anyone else here think the opening of Liszt's 'Orage' (AdP - Suisse No.5) sounds like the Gymnopedie from Hell?

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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #13 on: March 01, 2006, 01:52:12 AM
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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #14 on: March 02, 2006, 12:59:18 AM
You wont listen to anyone else after you watch DA DOC play this piece.

https://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1JNY1K3A4XS3D2M2FWKNFZHXIE

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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #15 on: March 02, 2006, 02:57:01 AM

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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #16 on: March 02, 2006, 03:23:33 AM
Has the cadenza to Hamelin's extended Hr2 been published?
Medtner, man.

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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #17 on: March 02, 2006, 11:11:52 AM
Has the cadenza to Hamelin's extended Hr2 been published?
yeah
many pianists in here have it...including me.
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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #18 on: March 02, 2006, 01:40:26 PM
and me

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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #19 on: March 05, 2006, 04:53:16 AM
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Cortot's is simply the most mindblowing interpretation I've ever heard.

Really ? I find it a little weird. In the fff brioso assai part, he doesn't play the 5th fingered C#. The same with the E in the other fff part.
Indeed , he skips every 5th fingered C# on the Friska section !!!!!
Despite this missed notes his playing is very impressive.

My favourites are Dichter, Cziffra and Campanella. I'm still looking for the perfect one.

Thanks everyone again !!! :)

P.S. I need and mp3 of the Jeno Jando version, I heard it 2 months ago in a radio station, and I'd like to hear it again.
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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #20 on: March 05, 2006, 05:09:22 AM
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I must ask - Are you judging the performance of the Liszt itself?

Yes, I prefer the Liszt original version, with no pedal abuse or a Super minblowing cadenza. Horowitz transcription is amazing, but I have a problem with that and all his other transcriptions, why couldn't he record the original versions? Despite that, I love them all. Anyways,  people are bothering to post some recordings, and I appreciate that very much.

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Hamelin's version: How many are judging the work beyond the mind-boggling and rather nifty cadenza? I find it a very dry performance of the Liszt but the cadenza does redeem the entire performance.

I agree, and personally I don't like any interpretation with a show-off cadenza, with the exception of this one.

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That said, my vote definitely goes to Cziffra's performance from the live concert in Japan.

Got an mp3 of it ?

Thanks
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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #21 on: March 07, 2006, 11:53:12 AM
Here's the Cziffra:
https://rapidshare.de/files/14905369/13._Liszt_-_Hungarian_Rapsody__2_in_C_m.mp3.html

I've just found Benno Moiseiwitsch's rendition of the HR2 and it more than rivals Cziffra's. He plays his own cadenza which has to be the most under-stated and tasteful cadenza for the Rhapsody I've ever heard. So characteristic of Moiseiwitsch himself.

(I heard it on the Naxos Music Library so I'm unable to upload it though)

Thanks
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Does anyone else here think the opening of Liszt's 'Orage' (AdP - Suisse No.5) sounds like the Gymnopedie from Hell?

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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #22 on: March 11, 2006, 02:57:57 AM
Oh yeah! this forum rules. Thanks everyone ! :P

By the way, I' ve been looking for one version in particular, Emil Gilels !!  :o
I didn't know he recorded it, but he's is my favourite pianist, and I need an mp3 of it. Please, someone in the forum must have it, Help Me !!!!!!

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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #23 on: March 11, 2006, 04:39:49 AM
You wont listen to anyone else after you watch DA DOC play this piece.

https://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1JNY1K3A4XS3D2M2FWKNFZHXIE

AMAZING!


Would you mind uploading it again, please? :)
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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #24 on: March 11, 2006, 05:11:34 PM
Nobody mentioned the Rachmaninoff recording. Why? Granted his cadenza, beautiful though it may be, is too clearly Late Romantic to be appropriate in a Liszt Rhapsody, but other than that it's a fantastic recording.

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Re: Best Recording of Liszt's HR2...
Reply #25 on: March 11, 2006, 06:26:52 PM
Nobody mentioned the Rachmaninoff recording. Why? Granted his cadenza, beautiful though it may be, is too clearly Late Romantic to be appropriate in a Liszt Rhapsody, but other than that it's a fantastic recording.

Yes  I did, it's on the lisst at beginning of this topic. :P
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