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Offline fuel925

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Ravel - Intermediate pieces?
on: February 28, 2006, 11:41:49 PM
I've never played any Ravel, suggestions for intermediate pieces would be very welcome :)

Offline debussy symbolism

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Re: Ravel - Intermediate pieces?
Reply #1 on: February 28, 2006, 11:43:39 PM
Greetings.

I know that this isn't an intermediate piece, but a rather easy one, a 1913 Prelude, a good introduction in my opinion to Ravel's works. Hope this helps.

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Re: Ravel - Intermediate pieces?
Reply #2 on: March 01, 2006, 02:02:06 AM
I think,his Pavane for a dead princess, L'oiseaux tristree ( second from the set mirroirs) ,  La valle les cloches( last from the mirroir) and some of the pieces from Le tombeau de Couperin  are not too hard to play.... and thats some amazing music out there)

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Re: Ravel - Intermediate pieces?
Reply #3 on: March 01, 2006, 09:56:30 PM
So... people reply to this but not my threads.

You ask for intermediate Ravel pieces on the 28th, and i asked for a list of difficult Ravel pieces on the 27th!

Does this forum hate me or something?! >:(

(I would play the Pavane or Valle les cloches, which are good)
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Re: Ravel - Intermediate pieces?
Reply #4 on: March 06, 2006, 07:04:02 PM
There isnt really any easy ravel.  I suppose the pavanne and the oiseaux triste and the sonatine are some of the more manageable pieces of ravel there are the odd ones out of the Tombe de couperin too which arent so hard but they are all difficult on one level or another.  Good luck whatever you pick.

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Re: Ravel - Intermediate pieces?
Reply #5 on: March 06, 2006, 07:22:49 PM
Ya, there aren't really any intermediate pieces.  I'd agree with the Sonatine (1st and 2 movements), the third is difficult.  Tombeau de couperin, some of it could be manageable, but some of it is also very difficult.  What about vallee des cloches?  I've heard it but do not know of it's difficulty.  It is not a fast piece, but maybe it actually is really difficult...
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Offline tompilk

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Re: Ravel - Intermediate pieces?
Reply #6 on: March 06, 2006, 08:01:29 PM
hmm. dare i mention gaspard? but that's no where near 'intermediate' so just ignore my post...
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Re: Ravel - Intermediate pieces?
Reply #7 on: March 07, 2006, 10:45:53 PM
I agree with pianowelch.  Almost everything in Ravel is difficult.

As for the person who was rather incensed at not being told some DIFFICULT Ravel pieces. 

Well, as you can see from THIS thread, almost everything by Ravel is difficult.  A few pieces like the pavane are perhaps "late intermediate" to "early advanced."  But most of his material is very difficult.

If you are advanced enough to play such material, why are you so unable to look through a book of Ravel's music . . .   and  -- while doing so --  why can't you easily decide for yourself what is hard?

People write in to the forum all the time and ask about difficulty, or want pieces ranked in order of difficulty.

Well, if these people have the skill to even CONSIDER playing some of this material, they should surely have enough "savvy" to skim over the scores with their eye and quickly determine the difficulty level for themselves.

Heck, I can do it -- it is a no-brainer.   And I am just not that good.

Is it even POSSIBLE that someone good enough to play advanced classical piano music would be totally LOST when it comes to a simple determination of difficulty?

I honestly believe some of these people are "putting us on" as the expression goes.

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Re: Ravel - Intermediate pieces?
Reply #8 on: March 08, 2006, 01:23:10 AM
Dude, stop restating the same point.

Not all Ravel is advanced, the following pieces are considered "easier"-

a la maniere de Chambrier
a la maniere de Borodine
Menuet sur le nom d'Haydn
Prelude (1913)
Pavane pour une infante defunte
Serenade Grotesque
Sonatine
Valses Nobles et Sentimentales

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Re: Ravel - Intermediate pieces?
Reply #9 on: March 08, 2006, 01:25:04 AM
Easy music for Ravel would be his Mother Goose (Ma Mère l'oye), for example I have taught his Pavane for Sleeping Beauty, very easy compared to his main works.
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Re: Ravel - Intermediate pieces?
Reply #10 on: March 08, 2006, 01:26:57 AM
Ah, forgot about that one. But I believe that the solo version is not Ravel's own transcription.
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