new repertoire/ no money

[pianistimo]

ok.  here's my problem.  i want to start some totally new repertoire (that i've printed off pianostreet) and yet, i have no money for piano lessons right now.  my washingmachine started leaking all over the floor yesterday (after 12 years).  anyway, i am now looking at no lessons for a few more months.

but, i want to learn the aria from the goldberg variations.  what do you do with two ornaments next to each other.  you just keep trilling and tie them together, right.  can someone write out the fingering and notes for the two trills?  or does anyone have time for all this?  and, does anyone have any pointers about the goldberg variations?

next question.  i also printed out brahm's 'handel variations.'  do you think the first six variations would be appropriate to play for a wedding, or is this too performance related (and should stick to the original version by handel?)  i'm possibly playing for a wedding and need some music to play.

and, does anyone have the faure 'pavane' in a moderate/or difficult version? i'd like to play that, too.

[thalbergmad]

Here is a reasonable version of the Pavane my little American sweetie.

https://s64.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3NX8U05ZGVKFV0ZO6OC5SMD4OE

Can't help with the Bach or the washing machine.

[pianistimo]

i love that version.  thanks so much!!!  you always do know how to make me very happy with new music. 

will google any info i can get on playing the aria.  it's complete nonsense to me right now, but i've only spent a couple of hours on it.  ok.  it's coming back.  all this baroque ornamentation.  here's a site i found that helped:

www.ptloma.edu/music/MUH/baroque/ornaments/orn.htm

it's not that hard, is it?  it just looks difficult.  'goldberg, can you play something to help me fall asleep?'  that's what it was written for?  a count's insomnia? 

[pianistimo]

ok.  here's what i have figured so far:

the first ornamentation we come to is a mordant (mordent in modern terms).  that's simple enough.  the named note, the note under it, and the named note again, played as a sort of fast (32nd type quick ornament). 

now, when you come to the second two ornaments (a mordent and a descending trill) you suddenly come up against a rhythmic dilemma.  do you play both at the same speed (32nd quality) or do you play the second ornament (the descending trill) slower (16th notes).  if you play them slower, you get a melodious ending with the two sixteenth notes already written in the score for you.  (total of descending trill = a,g,f,g,a,g (f,g written). 

what's #1 melodious  #2 acceptable     (i don't always care about fast)

going to listen again on amazon.com - my brain doesn't always catch up to my ears and i often have to listen to the ornamentation over and over again.

[pianistimo]

rosalyn tureck's interpretations are interesting.  she isn't as simplistic with the mordent and adds two (a,g,a,g,a) on the first one and one (aga) on the second.  also, when she gets to the descending trill it sounds like she keeps the same speed.  and, on the rolled chord in measure 11 - she rolls it from THE TOP - down.  vedy intedesting! 

ok.  i shall go to the piano and now perform the 'great gould goldberg variations' ala rosalyn tureck...pretending you all are here to hear my great interpretation.  importance shall be given to the notes unequally and randomly chosen to give people something to think about.  (paper cut on fourth finger should help)

[pianistimo]

a few more questions. 

is bach literal about the two sixteenth notes in the rh at the end of the third measure - or can they be 32nd notes? 

on the third variation, does the pianostreet version have a misprint in the rh.?  why does the left hand have a c# and right hand no c#?  what is supposed to be played there?