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quantum
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Teflon powder or other dry lubricant?
on: March 19, 2006, 03:36:05 AM
Well I was asking this on one of my posts in another forum but nobody is answering. So where can I get some teflon powder or other dry lubricant? It's for fixing a squeek in my sustain pedal.
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Axtremus
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Re: Teflon powder or other dry lubricant?
Reply #1 on: March 19, 2006, 03:54:33 AM
Perhaps this would help:
https://www.stevespianoservice.com/lubeglue.htm
Use your browser's "Find" function to find the keyword "teflon" on that page.
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chris13
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Re: Teflon powder or other dry lubricant?
Reply #2 on: March 19, 2006, 02:27:07 PM
How about graphite dust lubricant from a locksmith.
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cy_shuster
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Re: Teflon powder or other dry lubricant?
Reply #3 on: March 19, 2006, 04:16:36 PM
It depends where the squeak is. There are different lubricants for metal-to-metal, metal-to-leather, metal-to-wood, etc.
You could try the graphite dust in the pedal assembly, but be careful with it, and don't use it more than a foot above the floor. Lubrication can do big damage in the wrong place.
It could be up in the action, in which case let your tuner handle it.
--Cy--
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quantum
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Re: Teflon powder or other dry lubricant?
Reply #4 on: March 19, 2006, 07:54:25 PM
I've located the squeak to be between the capstan on top of the vertical rod and the bushing above it.
Here's my PW post with pictures:
https://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/13433.html
Why is it not good to use the graphite dust more than a foot above the floor?
And so I gather that teflon powder can only be purchased from a piano supply company?
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gfiore
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Re: Teflon powder or other dry lubricant?
Reply #5 on: March 19, 2006, 09:16:24 PM
Squeaks in pedal trap work can be deceiving. Sometimes where you think it's eminating from is not where the cause is at all. Some other areas to check are the lyre itself. When using the pedal, the lyre supports could be rubbing in their sockets(polyester finished parts can squeak). The damper pitman dowel it self can squeak when the pedal is depressed(very likely the culprit). The dowel sits above the trap lever in a felt or leather bushed hole, and another bushed hole in the bottom of the damper tray. Have your tech check these places.
Piano supply houses are pretty much the only source for micro-fine powdered teflon in small quantities. There are other sources, but you must purchase in the 10 pound range to start.
If you are working with the pianos trapwork, a bit more than a foot above the floor, that powder is going to get all over your rug, the floor, and any where is it falls on.
Graphite powder has a habit of getting everywhere, and migrating into places you do not want.
The pics you show are probably not the source of the squeak from my experience.
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cy_shuster
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Re: Teflon powder or other dry lubricant?
Reply #6 on: March 20, 2006, 03:55:51 AM
Quote from: quantum on March 19, 2006, 07:54:25 PM
Why is it not good to use the graphite dust more than a foot above the floor?
I want to make sure you don't get it into places where it could cause problems. I used that description rather than trying to explain the names of a lot of weird piano parts. You can safely put it on any piano part that's near the floor (upright or grand).
It's strange to read about the same problem in two places! :-) I see a lot of duplicate posts between here and PW. I'm afraid to subscribe to any more boards...
--Cy--
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timland
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Re: Teflon powder or other dry lubricant?
Reply #7 on: March 21, 2006, 02:25:15 PM
Spurlock Specialty Tools has teflon powder. WWW.SPURLOCKTOOLS.COM.
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