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Offline Rach3

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Help with Prokofiev passage
on: November 13, 2003, 05:20:11 AM
In Prokofiev's 6th sonata, 2nd mov., what is the best method to get the LH arpeggiations legato while keeping the RH staccato? I suspect pedaling is necessary for the 1.5-octave jumps in LH, but it muddles my RH. Any advice from someone who's played this? Is it some sort of flutter-pedal?
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Re: Help with Prokofiev passage
Reply #1 on: November 19, 2003, 08:15:11 AM
Has anyone here played this movement? This seems to be a very unknown and underappreciated sonata... I recommend the Horowitz recording.
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Re: Help with Prokofiev passage
Reply #2 on: November 19, 2003, 06:06:55 PM
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Has anyone here played this movement? This seems to be a very unknown and underappreciated sonata... I recommend the Horowitz recording.



The 6th is one of my favorite pieces. I actually have a funny story about it.

I've never played it, but I will take a look at the score, and see if I have any suggestions - which you should take with a grain of salt because I never studied it.

If my memory serves me right, until I can look at the score, the section you ask about is not too unlike the slow movement of Beethoven Op 28. It takes careful pedalling, to make sure the right hand is connected, but the left hand still remains staccato.
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Re: Help with Prokofiev passage
Reply #3 on: November 19, 2003, 06:10:05 PM
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Has anyone here played this movement? This seems to be a very unknown and underappreciated sonata... I recommend the Horowitz recording.



 I thought he only played the 7th sonata.
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Re: Help with Prokofiev passage
Reply #4 on: November 19, 2003, 08:36:40 PM
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 I thought he only played the 7th sonata.


Horowitz had 3, 6, 7 and 8 in his concert repertoire.
He gave the NY Premiere of #6 in 1942.
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Re: Help with Prokofiev passage
Reply #5 on: December 07, 2003, 09:07:05 AM
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In Prokofiev's 6th sonata, 2nd mov., what is the best method to get the LH arpeggiations legato while keeping the RH staccato? I suspect pedaling is necessary for the 1.5-octave jumps in LH, but it muddles my RH. Any advice from someone who's played this? Is it some sort of flutter-pedal?



I've played this sonata , all you can do is practising left hand to be able to play jumping arpeggios in time :| Well, I know it's very hard but there's no other way about it like different fingering or whatever ..
Have you ever listened Richter's recording of this sonata ? If you have, then you noticed he's cheating on them a lil bit ;)
Do not use any pedale there because there are staccato chords on the right hand .I can tell you some practising techniques about it, hope it works on you too:

1- Deplacément (2 hands&in tempo)
a) Try playing only 1st and the last (G and C
for the first bar) note on the left hand
b) Play only 1st ,4th and the last note (first G,G and C )

2- Play only left hand and sing the melody on the right hand (c,d,e,f,e,e,e,f,e,f,c etc ...)

3- When you play, always keep your wrist low to play them legato .

Good luck ! :)

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Re: Help with Prokofiev passage
Reply #6 on: December 07, 2003, 09:12:48 AM
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Has anyone here played this movement? This seems to be a very unknown and underappreciated sonata... I recommend the Horowitz recording.


Underappreciated ?

Yes this sonata isn't being played so often like 7th or 3rd but as you know, 6th,7th and 8th are 'War Sonatas' and they are very important for Piano Repertoire .
I recommend Richter because Richter introduced these sonatas to the world first and he was a friend of Prokofiev, so he did the best job on them coz Richter has been practising with the composer (as 5th concerto or the other concertos) So Richter's performance is reliable enough .

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Re: Help with Prokofiev passage
Reply #7 on: December 07, 2003, 05:12:42 PM
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I recommend Richter because Richter introduced these sonatas to the world first and he was a friend of Prokofiev, so he did the best job on them


...doesn't necessarily follow,
Ed

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Re: Help with Prokofiev passage
Reply #8 on: August 18, 2008, 07:27:57 PM
Horowitz had 3, 6, 7 and 8 in his concert repertoire.
He gave the NY Premiere of #6 in 1942.

Seriously?????

recs or it didn't happen 8)
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